btw, please don’t use multiple toons to sockpuppet this thread with trolling.
We can see the near identical achievement points.
What would you replace it with, if anything?
I guarantee you I’m not the person who posted above me. I only ever post on this character.
Something like 12 or 18 tokens should by a reroll for a vault slot.
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Just so it’s more terrible choices so you’re back here?
Achievement points is completely unreliable. Best way to know is to look at pets collection.
And beside, real trolls would post on a classic character.
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PvP treatment between all 3 pillars, since loot from one is often mandatory for the other, and so delves, m+, and raid loot can be allowed to go to myth track without intefering with each other.
Also this way people can’t say you need to do m+ to gear up for raids, and that you need to do mythic raiding to have better odds of getting the 1% title in m+. Also the whole delve situation where people don’t do low keys in m+ atm.
I’ve rarely seen a more buzzword-packed sentence, even here.
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Thank you for your unhelpful contribution to this thread where you attempt to derail it to aggravate others.
Today, in my full myth track vault, I got the following:
- Bad stat pants (that I’m currently wearing because I got the same pants two weeks ago).
- Chest that I got three times already this season.
- Tier shoulders that I already have.
Like I haven’t seen one good trinket or one good stat ring or neck in my vault yet but I’m already getting duplicates of items multiple times?
Vault is bad. Full stop.
I’m so tired of working hard during the week and filling my vault with eight mythic +10s to literally get the same poorly statted gear that I’m already wearing because I’ve gotten the same pieces multiple times in a row.
If vault stays the same, I won’t be playing next season because I’m just fed up beyond belief at this point.
Vault in DF was also bad but hero track loot was only six ilvl below myth track, so getting a bad vault wasn’t as devastating because you were only six ilvl down.
Now, you are 13 ilvl down if you get unlucky in vault.
There are MANY time-wasting mechanics in WoW that are incredibly disrespectful to the player’s time but the Great Vault is the literal worst offender in that regard.
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I understand your frustration. I’ve had some bad vaults this season. Was happily surprised with a good one today, but I remember the bad ones.
I think the best loot systems combine two tracks: one with RNG so you occasionally get thrill of winning lottery, and a parallel track you can grind through hard work.
What I do to stay motivated:
(just what works for me)
- Focus on what I control, which is building vault with 3x mythic options for best possible odds (I don’t raid mythic, so my best is 10-10-10 for M+).
- When vault stiffs me, I treat myself to a crafted upgrade and/or boe.
Can’t craft trinkets or buy boe trinkets from the AH, though.
So if you don’t get extremely lucky in vault, your two trinket slots will be 13 ilvl down for the entire season.
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haha. ha. you get belts? i havent had a single belt drop the entirety of tww endgame, the best i could get was a timewalking drop
I’m pretty sure this is one of the reasons vault exists. If you take away player agency, you can force steer them into paywalls. Rather than properly earn a piece, you agency has been taken away so you need to pay to craft in place of such.
P2W dark pattern design.
Stuff everyone’s backpacks with a weekly craft spark to supplement the loot throttle/agency loss they get from vault.
What do you mean?
12 tokens should buy an item not a reroll.
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Yeah that sucks. My 630 prot pally still equips 619 delve trinket lol.
I won’t tell you what Felfáádaern got from vault today because I don’t want to rub it in. 
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One reason I like S4s is that we get to buy all the fun toys that never dropped for us the first time around.
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I don’t think Blizzard would allow that, as it was theorized a few comments earlier why it currently is the way it is. It would eat into gear crafting monetization they planned out.
You only get the superior deterministic loot if you open up your wallet via crafting.
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unlocking six slots or nine slots just means you get more belts 
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If it had item locks so you couldn’t buy items that you couldn’t have gotten out of the vault, then maybe.
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