This is why you need to stop doing borrowed power like this, you guys can’t balance it. I just spent a bunch of gold AND time on getting my 3 stones to max, and now all 3 aren’t my best anymore and I have to refarm it all again and those 3 stones are not worth it. Why would you nuke the Humming Arcane Stone to the ground?
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True, but that didn’t solve the core issues mentioned by Chimes regarding the frustating gameplay and collectors doing X amount of attempts, it’s still the best option to do the maximum amount of attemtps, maybe multiple accounts instead of alts.
my point is that several members of the council provided ideas and the Devs never discuss any idea or provide a dev note for this kind of content compared to class balance.
Exactly, that’s my point a Dev replied yesterday with “content is comming or we’re thinking about it” that’s not participating of the council thread at all, a lot of the members that provided ideas aren’t part of that forum anymore.
What’s the point of doing another echo chamber with a small sample that’s being ignored, you can get the same feedback from the subforums besides GD. Devs should take the opportunity to talk to players on the council threads and you know that even council member did threads about those forums being ignored.
this is caused by their “we’ll ignore ptr feedback because we gotta test it in live first” philosophy.
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Which was the point of the CC.
We were supposed to rotate out after a year.
One of the new CC members replied to one of my posts and I can’t reply to him - it sucks, but it is what it is.
Yeah I got that part, I mentioned that because It seems like Devs can’t reply to those threads frequently, there’s a lack of coordination with CMs or Devs can’t handle that forum section and their job time, IMO, It’ll be better if threads are coordinated by someone, since there’s too many topics like GD but a small % response from Devs. Also, some Devs take time to do a note like all the new gear system, tier sets. Maybe it’s better if Devs take time to reply with some ideas or maybe ask for ideas, share some concers…etc
The only concern that I know about BGs so far is that Ion said in an interview that maybe too many BGs could cause issues with players that want to target a specific BG. (maybe a weekly rotation? )
At least the last live chats were good but those arrived too late into the first year.
That was a bad thing how? I mean you a salty raider/M+ player that felt forced to grind? What do we have in DF that is fun?
Not a dayum thing. Lariat doesnt even come close to being something fun. Remember us players that do not do your form of wow activities, actually liked some of the borrowed powers.
Zzzzzz patch.
Resident evil 4 remake today. What ring?!?
It’s Las plagas killing time boooooi!
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Please adjust the pvp nerf on the primordial stones, they don’t have to be full effect, but 75% makes them completely useless. Some of us were looking forward to experimenting with these in lieu of stat rings. Just make it competitive to a stat ring but not stronger so people don’t flip out.
This was touted as a major feature of the patch, and the last second change to it made us think the rings would be decent in PvP and not a handicap up until the change, please reconsider how heavy the nerf is. 50% is probably still fair for those that don’t want to get one, but lets those that do be able to actually use it for pvp.
The ring is still performing lower on some class specs then a crafted ring of same item level. While the changes did help, this still leaves many classes that are stat dependent performing lower with the ring. Please add an even spread of secondary stats to the ring.
At 424 level adding 150 Mast, 150 Haste, 150 Crit and 150 Verse would fix any short comings with the ring. Easy fix… No need to adjust the stones… Thats about just over half the secondary stats one would get from a mythic 424 ring which is around 1100 total stats IIRC.
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Yep. A lot of chatter during raid night that numbers were better without the Annulet than with, even if upgraded.
What’s the harm in giving these secondary stats???
It’s the main reason most specs wont and can’t use them. The flat dmg and effects don’t make up for the fact some of us lose 600+ haste on a ring slot… Which is huge unless we change 2-3 armor pieces to haste around just for the ring to be viable.
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Your entire post is my point.
Gear isn’t borrowed power.
This ring isn’t borrowed power.
This isn’t an obligatory grind like Artifact Power. You literally could not progress at all without those game systems. This is not a game system; it is an item with some proc effects instead of raw stats.
Calling this item “borrowed power” is a pretty fast and loose description of borrowed power to be “thing in the game I don’t like.”
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Got in my raid last night, all happy with my new 424 stones. Then I’m told that the one I picked got nerfed and that isn’t the right trio anymore 
I think people are confused about what borrowed power is and how it works. Equipment that lasts a single season is not borrowed power. Borrowed power is meant to last an entire expansion cycle.
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this is just wrong. Borrowed power is just as applicable to a single phase. Dom shards were borrowed power of the worst kind, and backfired horribly. Single phase. Idk where you got this definition, but no.
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It is borrowed power. Where is the power coming from if it isn’t our own. Even Tier sets are considered borrowed power, but many people complain to have them, even though they are complete trash for other specs. You can even argue about trinket; however, those are things that are minimal compared to issues like this ring and previous borrowed power problems. On top of that, classes still have SPEC/Talent issues, so adding this into it makes it worst. 
The ring is a piece of gear that falls outside the normal parameters of stat balancing, was tacked on to the current damage meta externally, and is currently doing 7k dps (a nearly 10% increase for many specs) from a SINGLE offpiece item’s special effect. It is the very definition of borrowed power.
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This doesn’t really seem like something that the player base is happy with. Personally, I do not like trading primary or secondary stats for RNG based garbage.
I know some people that prefer static elements over RNG. This is because of being consistently crapped on by the RNG Gods for 18 years.
I thought we got rid of systems… they were itching to add this on. I grabbed it to have a fire theme since they can’t even make Devastation Spec more “Red”, but yeah this a joke.
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