#1) PLEASE do not implement “Dungeon Finder”. At least not as it was. Automatically grouping without any need for communication kills the social aspect of the game. Allow the current LFG tool / LFG channels cross-realm if you must (especially on low pop servers)
edit 4/19/22: THANK YOU BLIZZARD!!! Truely renewed my faith with this AND the retail changes (only dumb one was limiting new race to 1 class)
#2) This one will be highly contested, esp among those who dont twink, but please dont kill twinking. I barely play mine, but I LOVE making and testing them. Separation is never good. Dont separate XP off people from others.
There is no difference between “twinking” lower levels, vs geared max level people. There will always be a large advantage among those more geared, but anyone is able to get the same gear. My pve geared 70 will get destroyed by someone in full vengeful gladiator, just like my 39 twink may destroy your avg level 39. Wouldnt separate those with arena gear though no would you?
It also becomes extremely difficult to find BGs of any sort in some brackets due to not enough “xp off” availability.
#3) LONGER PREPATCH! I think most of us agree 2 weeks was insanely short. Please, at least 1 month. If not 2.
Edit: #4) Dont cut the prepatch event short either… Zombie time was fun AF!! Maybe keep the essential NPCs safe tho.
The Dungeon Finder is fine as it was, should definitely still group you with randoms cross realm, and should instantly teleport you to the dungeon. There is nothing wrong with this. There are no social aspects to this game like there used to be. Its a pipe dream. RDF is absolutely necessary in its original state for the longevity of WOTLK.
Almost nobody twinks and this is irrelevant.
No thanks. 2 weeks is more than enough. Even if they allow DK’s in the prepatch, 2 weeks is enough time to get 68.
Dungeon finder wasn’t added to Wrath until over halfway through the expansion. Maybe they’d do that again…but I doubt it.
Turning off exp was in Wrath, if I remember right. But separating them to only fight against people with exp off wasn’t in Wrath. Not 100% on that though.
A month long prepatch wouldn’t be a change. That’s how long it was before Wrath. My hope is they don’t have a dramatically shorter prepatch than it initially was…which sadly they did with TBC Classic
We NEED dungeon finder unless they’re going to connect realms.
Twinking needs a nerf. So long as high level enchants can be put on low level gear, low level BGs are miserable for anyone else to queue up. This is why they are mostly dead content.
-There is a HUGE difference vs twinking and gearing max level. You spend thousands to have things you should not have.
It is agreed that crusade needed more than 2 weeks but it really does not matter for wrath. DKs already start at 55. If you actually prepared for death knight (see my thread about it), you’ll get through outland very quickly.
Edit: I did read it, and your insulting response that either side steps my points or is just downright ignorant of the topic. You should feel sorry for yourself, not me.
I don’t care if you are on a mega realm with “ALOT” of social aspects. The rest of us either need connected realms or dungeon finder. One or the other. You either agree with this or you don’t. Pick 1.
Max level classic enchants have NO level requirement. Level 19s literally have crusader enchants.
I was actually one of the many people that complained about only having 2 weeks on crusade. I never defended it. You seem to believe the opposite and that top end gear is somehow necessary for starting the next expansion. Neither are true.
Don’t post anymore responses for me. Next time I’m not reading it. Your crap has wasted enough of my time.
What social aspect? The strong majority of dungeon runs I’ve seen are only “social” when it’s a guild group. PUGs don’t socialize very often, if at all. And given you’re on a mega server as well, I somehow doubt there’s a whole lot of “server identity.” Give us instant TP to dungeon and auto grouping instead. You can most definitely still use party chat to “socialize,” if your guild and server aren’t doing it enough for you as it is.
Level 19 twinks can be some of the most toxic players this game has. XP from BGs actually put life into the 19-69 BGs, rather than it being the same set of sweaty folk who can’t be bothered to raid.
Nah, 2 weeks felt short because all the rerollers were starting at 1 and the most hardcore of them were hoping to get a decent chunk of raid gear before TBC fully opened. Wrath gives the rerollers a start at 55, and probably a paid boost for 68. 2 weeks is more than enough time to get 15 levels.
Three weeks would be a bit nicer, but it shouldn’t be hard for DKs to get both lockouts for 25m for a 2 week prepatch, plus more for ZA. It depends if guilds will support them - it also depends if everyone in the guild is going to be leveling one, instead of just actual rerollers.
you clearly didnt read the post. My ideas still allowed for cross-realm play. The idea is just nothing automatic and no teleporting to inside the dungeon. Makes the outside the instance portals completely irrelevant. If you think there is no social aspect to this game, I feel sorry for you / the server you are on. They is ALOT on Pagle.
High level chants cannot be put on low level gear. See: “can only be applied to level 35 and up items” etc.
2b) Anyone can put those enchants on gear as they level up. By saying “spend thousands to have things you should not have” You mean spent alot of time and gold getting the best items possible for your level? Sounds like a typical level 70 player to me.
Go into a bg vs a twink. You’ll probably get pwnt.
Now go into an arena or even BG as a fresh 70 in random greens and other junk… and face someone in vengeful glad, etc. Same result. It’s just easier for you to cry about actual twinks than level 70s outgearing you (tho you still do it)
I did forget they start so high, but that wasnt the only reason I mentioned this. 2 weeks was so short because even if you leveled to max in a couple days (took me 5) you get a max of 2 raid lockouts. Running AQ40 and Naxx on a class that wasnt available to us was fun, AND helped us get ready GEAR WISE for TBC. Sure, you can easily get a DK to 70 in 2 weeks, but your gear will still have no comparison.
I think 1 month is a perfect balance. Its what most of us expected last time. People saying it was enough, were by FAR in the minority.
@Dreamsphere: "The Dungeon Finder is fine as it was, should definitely still group you with randoms cross realm, and should instantly teleport you to the dungeon. There is nothing wrong with this. There are no social aspects to this game like there used to be. Its a pipe dream. "
That post alone gives your opinion 0 validity. I’d swear you were straight up trolling tbh.
Dungeon Finder is great and fills and important need in the game.
The reason you don’t need to communicate with dungeon finder isn’t because of being group automatically. It’s because wotlk dungeon content is so easy you don’t actually need to talk to anyone in order to complete it.
What anti dungeon finder people don’t seem to realize is that there is a significant population of players within the game that have trouble finding groups to do content with. The dungeon finder is a great solution to that and keeps many more people playing the game than other wise would.
What makes you think your opinion has any validity? LOOK AROUND. There is NO COMMUNITY. Not your server, not mine, not anyone’s. Trying to ruin a massive QOL feature for everyone because of this made up community of yours is extremely harmful to the game as a whole.
There’s a reason for this. Guilds use discord. We have voice chat and can actively socialize while doing said runs. There’s no need for typing. Typing while trying to do heroics does slow it down and is distracting.
Wanna be social with pugs? Post your discord when the run starts.
