The only thing I miss from vanilla wow are the people I used to play with. So nop, I’m not playing it .
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The problem with Bfa is that the systems are bad.
In vanilla, the process may have been arduous or daunting, but at least you could quantify your process on it. Plus you were never required to grind reps for anything other than cosmetic things.
I realize that you could grind timbermaw for an enchanting recipe, but you were never required to do that to see other things. And the process for grinding timbermaw meant you sat there for 10 hours shooting mobs to grind them. You weren’t time gated.
While BfA has the quality of life things that make it superior in many ways, the mob pathing, putting as much into an area to make it take longer, are all things that detract from the game.
The sad thing is, none of these things are required. Things that take away fun will eventually mean less playing time and fewer players. You’d think after 3 expansions of this crap they would have figured that out by now.
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My thinking is still the same. I’m going to dabble in classic. That’s about it.
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You should check out vanillafriends. People sign up with guilds they used to be in to find other people they played with. Who knows maybe some of your old friends signed up 
i found a few from my old vanilla guild there.
For me, Diablo 2 was easily the best. After D2 I just can’t go back to D1.
From my point of view, the moment Blizzard actually touched Diablo, it got better. If Blizzard didn’t start off by having incredibly strong input on Diablo 1, I strongly feel Diablo wouldn’t be a franchise worth anything today. Just a nostalgia “hey remember how we used to play X game 20 years ago?”
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Believe me we’re all sad to see you leave. Retail won’t be the same without you.
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Yes artificial player retention is a major problem in current content. Its something that they have just unfortunately gotten worse progressively with each expansion. Which is just bad business practice in my opinion. Its cheaper and faster to do it that way. Which is a shame.
While heroic keys I don’t believe were in Vanilla, they definitely made an appearance in TBC.
I go back and forth about it.
First I had no interest. I played the heck out of vanilla. There was nothing left for me to accomplish there. I didn’t feel like doing it again.
Then I started to think that Classic really could recapture the community feeling that vanilla had, and which WoW has not had for many years. That was what made vanilla more fun than any other expansion for me.
But now I find myself wondering what the endgame for Classic is. What happens once you clear the content? It’s not going to take that long. Is it just going to become a PvP game? Are they going to roll out TBC servers? Or are most people going to quit and move on? Not sure it’s worth it.
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You can stop there. Systems are the core game. If the systems are bad, the game is bad, 'nuff said.
But to answer the op’s question, yes I’ll be playing Classic. Going back to it again has been some of the best experiences I’ve had in a long time. The fact that I feel like I can play vanilla and play for fun rather than achieving something is a beautiful thing. I always have the issue of feeling bad when I play single player games because I’m not making and long term progress and too stressed with keeping up with everything in current MMOs. Classic is the perfect balance. I can make long term progress and not have to be stressed about keeping up with everything. I can go into Wailing Caverns and not feel like my group needs to speed clear it in 15 minutes. We can spend an hour or more in there, have fun, and maybe leave with a little bit of gear.
I would keep playing BFA on and off had they not taken a stance to remove twinks. Now that twinks are segregated and basically removed I have no reason to log onto retail until 9.0, which will hopefully be good and bring me back.
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Yeah for a short time. I mean after questing in a zone you were past honored, which is what it was reduced to later. But they realized early in TBC that they needed to change that process.
There is this notion that some players would unsub from the game because they completed the content, I have yet to ever see any data that is the case. I think more people quit from boredom of not being able to progress and burnout.
It would be kinda hilarious if they just slowly re release all of wow. Then classic reaches BFA and everyone just cycles back to classic vanilla again lol
Right now I’d honestly be happy with any other expansion. I dream about going back and playing through WoD again, thats how bad it is.
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I think that’s the plan.
I cant imagine that going well.
I cant imagine they would have the player base for that.
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I don’t think that matters.
it just goes to show how much having several million players paying $15 a month to play a game, no matter what version, means to the company overall.
This is why I laughed when people tried to say that overwatch and hearthstone were the revenue kings at Blizzard. Those people fail to understand the simple concept of generating income versus generating profit.
When I first heard of Classic returning from last year’s Blizzcon, I told myself that I wont do it anymore as I was a Naxx40 hardcore player back then. I dont want to do it all over again though it was amazingly fun.
Then when Beta Classic was opened, I just tried my luck if I could have it. There were many seeking for Beta Classic invites but only few were granted to participate. I was not expecting to be invited, but then I got invited.
So I paused my BFA game then… just doing Mythic +10 once per week to give way for Classic.
So I played Classic, I saw WoW again on its rare form. I played the Hunter Class, the most pruned Class in BFA and the Class with most inconveniences in Classic. So I experienced again Deadzone, very small bag space becoz of carrying arrows, mana, pet food and my own food, running the whole Azeroth on foot, far respawn of your spirit when you die, a very slow paced game, etc. Despite of these disadvantages, I realized that I like it. Everything I accomplished there seems rewarding becoz all its aspects in there were painful but if you persisted, you felt a great relief and it rewards you appropriately. The experience in leveling is superb… It is awesome.
Then I reached the level cap. The first level cap was level 30. I looked at what I have to do during level cap… it was WSG but my range weapon was awful compared to Warrior’s rare weapon given free from their Warrior quest. I found a range weapon and it’s from chain quests after defeating Bangalash, a level 40 elite (in STV)… and I was level 30. I tried it anyway. Fighting level 35 elites and some level 38s are manageable in solo but I found a group who’s doing it. It was painful but it was fun as I am using all the hotbars that I could use to creatively beat elite mobs. Then when we face Bangalash, we realized that a party of 5 is not enough. So we brought 2 party’s of 5 and Bangalash went down… I got my range weapon and I played the Classic WSG. I didnt know that I was on someone’s stream while on WSG. It was fun.
Then Blizz raised the level cap to 40. When we reached 40, we are suppose to do Arathi Basin but the Horde wont play becoz Alliance’s Paladins have mounts at 40… easy to get becoz it’s free. Buying the mount at level 40 on your own takes few days of farming gold. Time ran out as 8.2 was fast approaching. Instead, Blizz made all Classic Beta players switch realms to play their Alterac Valley battlegrounds by giving us pre-made level 60 toons. It was nostalgic as AV game took hours to finish. I remember there were some AV games I played in Vanilla that didnt finish the whole night… seeing 4000+ Honor kills. But in Classic Beta AV, I experience two 4 hours long AV game. It was awesome.
After that weekend, we came back to our level 40 toons with nothing to do. 8.2 was just one week and our Classic toons has nothing to do at cap level. Blizz didnt raise the level cap. So many of my guildmates went back to BFA. Stormwind in Classic Beta has a good population few weeks ago. Right now, it’s like a Ghost town.
What did I learn? Classic is very good at leveling. The journey while leveling is fun. But when you reach its level cap, there’s nothing to do other than BG’s. In BFA, leveling experience is awful… maybe that’s why Blizz wants us to speed level to 110 coz at at level 110, that’s where the fun starts in BFA. There are tons of stuffs to do at max level in BFA. Now at 8.2, it’s an improvement of previous BFA.
Classic and BFA are both WoW. They are both fun to me. I will play BFA. If I get bored, I would play Classic. It’s free anyway. There would be 2 WoW games. And I am gonna love both of them at August.
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Nope…was a “not gonna play” and still am. Although I’m all for it, as long as blizz stops regressing things on live to appease the “it was better back then, change it all” folks. They have classic to wallow in now, so stop removing QoL things from live.
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That’s such an easy “ grind “ though. Maybe takes an hour a day for 8 days? Or you can shorten it by killing rares
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