Catch-up Mechanics Make WoW Unsatisfying as a Casual Player

Instead they should bend over backwards reverting a system that most people like just to please you? Sounds good. Makes sense.

They should go back to what gave them a healthy and growing game, rather than continue to double-down on the dumbing down of the game that has driven away almost their entire playerbase.

You think, if they stuck with that model today, we’d still be at the 13mil sub peak it was in WotLK?

I have no idea. But I’m pretty sure we’d have more than the 2 mil they have today.

2mil (if that’s even confirmed, it’s probably higher than that) is still pretty damn good for a 14+ year old game.

I’m having fun knowing that I’m not locked out of content for arbritrary reasons.

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Just because a game is 14 years old doesn’t mean it must necessarily suffer a catastrophic player loss. There are games over 20 years old that haven’t seen the collapse of their playerbase that WoW has.

“It’s an old game” is just a cop out, trying to cover up for deliberate bad mistakes on the developers’ part.

WoW didn’t HAVE to go through this. It happened because the developers chose to do things that made it happen. Because they don’t listen to their players.

You’re sure it wasn’t the massive wave of disappointment that the dance studio was cut?

Nonetheless I believe that if WoW kept to the old model of alienating the casual player and giving everything to the hardcore, we’d be in a far worse position.

Did Blizz make mistakes? Sure. But giving the casual playerbase an actual game to play was not one of them, I think.

Yes.

WoW 2007, with no dance studio: Fine.
WoW 2018, with no dance studio: Not fine.

No correlation.

WoW 2007, with its original play model: Fine.
WoW 2018, with radically changed play model: Not Fine.

Possible indication of correlation.

*citation needed.

Since the subs started dropping just after Cata was released I’m gonna blame the introduction of Goblins and Worgen. Clearly new races killed the game. The new “catch-up” system wasn’t even a thing back then. Or we could just blame Obama.

WoW never alienated the casual player. WoW’s strength from the beginning was catering to the casual player.

You didn’t lose a level when dying in WoW. That was what made WoW successful. WoW has always catered to the casual player, but Blizzard managed to cater to the casual player in BC and Wrath without destroying their core game model.

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If you don’t like the catch-up way, then don’t use it

The meat of the game was still put into the raids, which was beyond the reach of the casual player save for maybe the very bottom tier raids like Karazhan.

It was disheartening being taunted by Illidan during a questline, knowing you never had any hope of seeing him.
Same with Brutallus, taunting you during a bombing run and challenging you to “bring 24 of your friends and try again”.

Casuals were given the scraps (literally in one case, with a ragged beat-up version of Kael’thas put in a 5man), while the hardcore got to enjoy the heart of the game.

I don’t want to go back to those days.

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Forming a raid team was not difficult. I had no idea what I was doing but managed to put together a rag-tag band of misfits and raid.

It was difficult when you didn’t know many people, were on a low-pop PvP server, and were forced to play during non primetime hours.

  1. I didn’t know many people.
  2. I was on a low pop server.
  3. I worked late and didn’t get home til 9 o’clock and played on a server 2 hours ahead of me so it was 11 server time.

Still managed it.

Grats. That’s quite a success story. But understand that not everyone would be able to match it.

Also, we’re talking like midnight in my case. xD

Everyone doesn’t NEED to match it. I’m talking about forming a raid team. 95% of players don’t have to do that, they can join an existing team.

Of course. I tried to do that too, but it didn’t go over that well.

Some of us did struggle and appreciate the tools that would later come, that helped people like us greatly.

You could always throw your catch up loot into the scrapper so it dosent affect you.