You have three years of Classic proving RDF was never the problem. That’s something I personally did not expect, because in the past I really thought it was directly linked to what happened to the game.
I stand corrected. Some people are incapable of such reflection.
So your argument is that the past three years show we don’t need it, therefore now is different.
Good logic. Lets just avoid the topic, pretend that somehow spamming dungeons non-stop while sitting in a city will somehow improve the games health.
Anyone defending RDF also wants boosts, LFR, and unsubscribes the moment the content gets “tough”
Quit if you don’t like it, but it ain’t coming to the game. Guaranteed.
Such an awful take lol.
I don’t think most people misrepresent what rdf would be used for. We’ve all just used it differently and therefore had different experiences.
For example I would log in and go to an area to quest or farm. Then I would ask in guild if anyone wanted to do x dungeon. Almost always 1 or more guildies or friends would join me and then we’d join the rdf queue together tp fill out the group. Since I was playing with friends 99% of the problems other people had never happened to me. If someone tried to kick someone with out any reasonable cause we voted no. If there was a reasonable cause to kick someone we kicked them. Since I and my friends weren’t toxic and we mostly controlled the group almost nothing toxic ever happened in the groups we were in. Joining rdf with friends makes it a rewarding experience.
Now there was another group of players that mostly joined the rdf solo. I guess they didn’t have a good guild or any friends to play with and had no other choice. When you join the rdf queue solo you’re left at the whims of strangers, bots, etc. You’re forced to play with them or leave. From reading people’s posts here I can understand what it’s like if you have no friends or a good guild and you have to join the rdf queue solo. I sympathize, but since I always joined the rdf queue with friends none of that ever happened to me. There’s not much I can do to help the people without friends who get screwed over when they join the rdf solo. Perhaps they should seek help from a good therapist to deal with their social anxiety and anti-social behaviors? Then they could find a good guild and make some friends to join the rdf with. After that, no more problems with rdf.
The behavior of queing solo started ‘because’ RDF was added. Before then people spammed LFG chat, and used some manners of other group tools.
You now have a built in working LFG bulletin board and it works quite well and will be updated soon according to blizz posts.
You can do everything you described and have the luxury of picking your party members instead of hoping you didn’t get qued with someone who won’t put in effort, is a bot, or worse a booster/account seller.
You gain nothing with RDF except the option to be lazy, introducing infinite gold options for the abusers, and encouraging people to not talk to eachother. Literally what happened with retail.
It happened already, what would even make you think it won’t again?
You can still do that even with RDF in the game, no matter how many times you try to avoid that fact.
You want to actively see the death of a server and think you have the high road.
You hated the botting culture of classic and tbc, yet want the botting culture that comes inevitably with RFD. I’d say beware what you wish for, but you come off as the type who actively wishes to get sick to skip work.
LOL.
You mean the botting culture of classic and tbc that existed just fine without RDF?
You’re not even trying…
Feign ignorance, or be as stupid as you wish. If you think botting is bad now, you have no idea what hell the monkeys paw you are grasping for can do. Its not a slippery slope anymore. Its a full on nosedive into the worst parts of retail.
So you’re saying that after rdf was added you abandoned your friends and guildies and just used rdf solo. Why did you do that? They must not have been very good friends or a very good guild if the first moment you could use rdf you left them behind. I stuck with all the friends I had before rdf was added and continued to make a partial group with them before joining the rdf queue. Because they were my friends and I liked playing with them
The problem for most people is we don’t think it works very well. More often than not it doesn’t find you a group at all. You must not be playing many alts or doing many low level dungeons.
Unless my group has a healer or a tank I never have the luxury of picking them. After such a long wait out of desperation we just take the first tank or healer that agrees to join.
I don’t care if you think it’s lazy. I could say you’re too lazy to make friends and find a good guild so you have no choice but to join the rdf queue solo. I come to wow because I like to play the game. I have fun mixing in dungeons between questing and farming. Nothing bad happened to me when rdf was added. In fact I played more with my friends since when we joined the rdf queue we got more dungeons more quickly. I want to play this game. I want to complete the dungeons. Not spend my play time looking for people to play the game with.
It happened to you. Unless you’ve learned how to make friends and find a good guild I’m sure it will happen to you again. You’ll still have no choice but to join the rdf alone. Again I can’t help you with that. You’ll need to find a good therapist to deal with your anti-social issues.
What you are purposefully ignoring is not what “I” do, but what everyone does.
You have no argument. You want to try less, pretend its good, and ignore the blatantly bad things that come of it.
Bottom line is it isn’t happening. Get over it and either move on or quit.
Ah yes, the typical highroad of the anti-rdf poster.
It’s not my fault Blizzard won’t hire GMs and police their own game. And that’s not RDF’s problem either. However, in a dungeon group it’s much easier to identify and report bots. And there are measures in place to kick said bots. But there are also protections in the vote kick system so it’s not abused. There are NO such measures without RDF.
Look, I can’t take your posts seriously. Your argument has no legs to stand on. Everything you keep trying to blame on RDF has existed in Classic just fine without RDF, thus proving it wasn’t RDF that facilitated this behavior.
Now you’re just going full troll mode. The worst part of Retail is RDF? Really? That’s what you’re going with. So take RDF out of Retail and what happens to the leveling dungeon experience? It disappears. Just like Wrath Classic. Virtually no one will be doing dungeons. What an improvement. And at end-game RDF isn’t even used for relevant content, since obviously it doesn’t work with Mythics.
So your ‘worst aspect of Retail’ is a tool that gets players doing dungeons, without which no one would be dungeons. And isn’t used at endgame.
I mean…LOL.
ThE tYpIcAl HiGhRoAdEr.
Get bent lol
It’s only a matter of time until anti-rdf trolls show their true colors. Happens every time. Been seeing it for months. In any event…
Get on your actual toon and post on the forums instead of hiding behind a 23 warlock if you want to talk about trolls.
Otherwise, get lost.
Because it was not what everyone did. I’ll trust what you post and accept that you abandoned your friends and guild and joined the rdf solo. Or maybe your friends and guild abandoned you. But I and everyone I knew almost never joined rdf solo. We made a partial group first and joined rdf just to fill out the last couple slots. It’s a complete mystery why anyone would join the rdf solo. All I can think of is they didn’t have any friends or a good guild to form a partial group with before joining rdf to fill out the last couple slots.
I think that started with Wrath.
That’s the power of the convenience and accessibility. It encourages players to form partial groups since it’s so easy to fill it out. Without such a tool it’s simply not worth the effort.
Truth, classic is by definition everything that the original had, except wrath doesn’t have everything it originally had, they butchered it by removing said things.
His actual toon is level 59 Hunter he boosted back in TBC and got an entire level on (after chastising people for buying boosts). He hasn’t ever had a max level character. He pays a sub to troll the forums and has been doing so for years.