Cataclysm Classic Hotfixes - July 10

Where was this trend seen? None of the logs on warcraft logs reflect any boomkin parsing blue and above utilizing this? Even if you could snap shot mastery the ONLY fight that this could possibly be logical of doing it on would be halfus. Playing boomy normally stacking haste and getting resets on nature’s grace for 3-4 haste break points on dots yielded far more damage than mastery stacking and sitting in solar.

The only time boomy sits solar is clearing trash before bosses. I’m glad SOMETHING was given to boomy AND an explanation of the shadow nerf to attempt to make up for it, but I really don’t see buffing our 4th highest damage ability by the estimated 15% is going to make up for not being able to pre-pot fights in eclipse state, having our trinket procs not be lined up with eclipse states, having to wait to use engineering gloves until you get into eclipse state instead of at the start causing less glove usage, having cooldowns not being able to be used off the rip of the fight because of having to wait to get into an eclipse state causing less cooldown usage, etc.

I just don’t see this as being a necessary change since playing boomy normally and not sitting in solar yielded more dps anyway according to warcraftlog parses.

This change basically nerfed people playing boomy normally, so you could remove a silly and underperforming way of playing boomkin that did less damage than someone actually playing boomkin correctly.

But besides the fact of this nerfing boomys already playing correctly and removing a playstyle of boomkin that according to warcraftlogs just really isnt even done, You now buffed boomkin in pvp with a damage increase to insect swarm when they already topple over every other dps by miles in damage in RBGs. The meta has now become 3-4 boomkins on a team because the damage is so high that healers just cant keep up and rot out the enemy team in RBGs.

A better fix if the goal was to remove snapshotting, would be to reset boomkin energy meters to 92, not 0, if they were already in an eclipse state at the start of a fight. That way they could still get back into eclipse state quickly and hardly notice a difference in pre-pot, cooldowns, trinket procs, engineering glove uptime, etc. And not indirectly buff one of the strongest RBG classes in the process.

Now I’m not calling the Devs liars when they say they noticed a trend in this type of playstyle happening. Not everyone logs to warcraft logs so it’s very possible people were exploiting this and not recording the logs for it to be seen. But with how gamers are I find it hard to believe that we wouldn’t see at least a few players logging this exploit or playstyle to try to see themselves on the top of the parse rankings if it really was as strong as it is made out to be.

Just as a hypothetical, are we going to put a 10 second cooldown on firemage’s pyroblast ability that resets on hot streak procs? In theory a firemage could sit there all fight hard casting pyroblast instead of fireball for bigger ignites before combustion. It doesn’t preform as well as playing firemage correctly and it isn’t the intended way for firemage’s kit to be played, correct?


TLDR: You nerfed boomkins to remove a playstyle that according to warcraftlogs wasn’t being utilized or just strictly does substantially less damage than playing boomkin the way it was intended and tried to make up for it by buffing our 4th highest damage source. In the process you buffed boomkins in PvP when they were already miles above everyone in damage output shifting the RBG meta to being 3-4 boomkins per team.

The trap is its own entity. Spell reflecting the trap back at the trap is how it works. But the trap despawns on using its ability so it doesnt really take the effect on the trap as it is despawned.

This is one of the strengths of hunter trap vs say polymorph and is part of why traps have CDs while sheep does not.

Its a pro and con comparison.

It has never worked that way. When you spell reflect a Frozen trap the hunter is now Frozen. You are reflecting his trap at him. Been that way since it’s inception.

No you are just hilariously wrong. I’ve always reflected Hunter traps back at them and that was the skill in doing it. Since you save your Spell reflect for the trap with the purpose of reflecting the CC onto the Hunter. That’s the skill play and currently it’s not working.

June 13, 2024

Cataclysm Classic

  • Race change, faction change, and paid server transfer cooldowns reduced to 3 days (was 30 days).
  • Magmaw will no longer fall backwards during Impale, preventing players from doing damage.
  • Fixed an issue where the Horde team was getting less resource points per tick with three locations captured in the Eye of the Storm, than the Alliance team would in the same situation.
  • Improved combat logging of certain effects.
  • Death Knight
    • Death Coil will no longer critically heal for 300% of the normal value, instead of the intended 200%.
  • Rogue
    • Vendetta no longer persists on the target when the Rogue specs out of the talent.

Where is our R14 transmogs? PLS!!! LET IT WORK!!!!!!!

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Rank 14 gear for Transmog pleeeeaaaaase

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Cool. Can you fix av weekend rotation tho thx

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Undocumented but todays hotfixes appear to have fixed worgen skinning, I was finally able to finish leveling to 540 in a Grim Batol today.

Thanks for fixing some of the dungeon achievements! Can other achievements be fixed as well? To my knowledge, “Bounce”, “My Very Own Broodmother”, and “Help the Bombardier! I’m the Bombardier!” are not achieveable. Additionally, “Cataclysmically Delicious” and “Drown Your Sorrows” don’t show the items required to get them, and I believe “Fairegoer’s Feast” are missing a couple items in its objectives.

EDIT: Also! Since you’re fixing Tempest Keep legendaries, can you allow shamans to dispel mind control when using Primal Strike with the Infinity Blade? Thanks!

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Can we PLEASE transmog our R14 gear?

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too bad wintergasp demos still have 50k hp and theres helix goblin boss from dm trolling bgs keeping people in combat not letting them mount but nice fixes good try

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This Helix griefing made Tol Barad dailies absolutely undoable tonight. You need to lock the Deadmines immediately. It is only getting worse as more and more copycats join in. Literally anywhere one can hearth to or port to you can find Helix.

He literally came running up out of nowhere and started attacking me when I went to do dailies. Ran back to the camp and took the portal to Stormwind than reentered Tol Barad. Went up the hill and tower to do a quest, stuck in combat again. Can’t drink for mana, can’t mount, this is absolutely ridiculous, nothing to do but log off and miss a day’s worth of commendations. And still just :cricket::cricket::cricket:.

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Not gonna lie I laughed at this. Pretty funny. Maybe it’s a tad bit to much but still kinda hilarious. I love when stuff is kited to a city and everyone is wiped. Guess people are just getting creative with this though.

Not sure if intended, but once you meet valor cap you no longer gain Justice Points for heroics.

are you not capped on JP? you can only have 4k at a time

Yeah this isn’t like that at all tho. He cannot be killed and he does hardly any damage. He’s not wiping anyone, he’s not killing guards or getting killed by guards, he just gets people stuck in combat.

Tonight he was there again. I saw him in camp, wasn’t in combat, mounted and went off to start dailies. After the first fight I got into, I was stuck in combat. I wound up doing all 18 dailies in combat because I could hearth out, come back in, not even see him at all, then after the first fight I got into, stuck in combat again. The entire time.

And the odd thing was it wasn’t happening to my friend I was grouped with, which means him being there essentially bugged the entire zone for some people, but no, this isn’t a problem worth mentioning by Blizz.

Tried “safe spotting” myself to break combat, didn’t work either.

The people doing this are the kind of people who think it’s fun to pull the wings off flies. They’re getting off on giving other people a bad time. And from what a guildie told me, this was a problem in original cata and blizz didn’t fix it until WoD so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that they don’t acknowledge it at all.

If only we could figure out some way to profit off this, they’d fix it yesterday.

This right here is my issue with it. People brush this kinda crap off easier than I do though. It’s kinda like if the enemy team has an AFK, your own team isn’t likely to report it because it doesn’t ruin things for them, yet.

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June 18, 2024

Cataclysm Classic

  • Faster than the Speed of Light and Vigorous VanCleef Vindicator are now granted properly after completing the achievement.
  • Archaeology Survey equipment should now appropriately despawn.
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