"casuals are ruing the game'
Mentions time gating.. lol
You realize that time gating is because leets that burn through every bit of content within 2 days of release, right? At least thats the running consensus.
I could blame Pathfinder on leets as well if I wanted to be petty and keep some blinders on. But truth is blizz is at the helm of this ship, they make the decisions. Not cazzies or leets.
10/30/2018 03:34 PMPosted by Bassets10/30/2018 03:27 PMPosted by Jalenour playstyle shouldn't be looked over because we play the game differently.
I never said your playstyle shouldn't be looked over. However, if the game maker does not gear their game towards the bulk of the people who play the game, then you would have to pay a ton more to play the game. This is a business decision that companies make all the time. Fast food restaurants don't like discount menus but they know they need to have them because it drives business.
Never said you did. I'm saying that's what's happening. And the problem with that is it gives the players nothing to aspire to or work towards.
Another endless grind that's the Azerite Neck
A forging system that means you'll never have the best gear
A warfront that doesn't allow for premades to queue for and is a rare farming zone in the open world
An Island Expedition thats rewards are laced behind RNG
Azerite Pieces that are locked behind a Loot Crate
The list goes on and on. There's nothing in BFA for communities to work with in the new content. And there's barely anything for the hardcore.
10/30/2018 02:49 PMPosted by KïlljøÿShow me proof the majority are casuals and bads.
Since when is casual synonymous with bad?
10/30/2018 02:27 PMPosted by KïlljøÿNever seen it a single time and i watch post blues all day long.
Here's one such quote from Ion himself:
https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2935-Challenge-Mode-Gear-Procs-Hotfixes-Dev-Interviews-Appear-Offline-Blue-Posts
LFR justifies the creation of more raid content when millions of players are able to see content. Only a few thousand people actually saw Kel'thuzad, but millions saw Deathwing. The reason Mists of Pandaria is starting with 18 bosses and adding larger raid tiers than we have had previously is because many players are going to see the raids through LFR.
The casuals who only do LFR make it possible for raids to continue being developed. If you like any kind of raiding, thank the casuals for making it possible.
10/30/2018 03:38 PMPosted by JalenA forging system that means you'll never have the best gear
This is the big one for me personally. Knowing it's basically impossible to cap out kinda saps my will to even try. Current trend for me is to get AotC then drop off until the next tier.
This thread is still going?
Folks, the OP has an over-inflated sense of ego and has been caught lying about his points. He has no interest in facts or proof that goes against his viewpoint, he's simply looking for an echo chamber.
Do yourselves a favor and let this thread die.
Folks, the OP has an over-inflated sense of ego and has been caught lying about his points. He has no interest in facts or proof that goes against his viewpoint, he's simply looking for an echo chamber.
Do yourselves a favor and let this thread die.
Random cries that a casual MMORPG is too casual for his liking.
WoW has always been casual and it was marketed towards the casuals.
Grow up please. 0/10 troll thread
WoW has always been casual and it was marketed towards the casuals.
Grow up please. 0/10 troll thread
10/29/2018 11:19 PMPosted by KïlljøÿLFR, warfronts and Titantforge
- Gear progression is now pointless when you can just que LFR or warfronts and afk and collect free loot.
- Casuals are rewarded for being lucky rather than being skilled with lucky titanforges.
- If you are rewarded for being bad, then what's the reward for being good?
No more prestige
- Everything is so much easier to obtain now.
- From mounts, pets, titles, pvp titles, transmogs ect.
- If everything is easily obtained then the less prestigious it becomes and the less sought after it will be.
Time gating
- Everything is rewarding you for logging for a few hours a week.
- From chests, to reputation, mission tables, weekly quests and emissaries.
- This leaves non casual players with nothing to do.
Class design
- Every class was simplified and made similar with a builder/spender rotation and a 2-3 min burst cool down.
- Many baseline abilities were removed or added as talents.
- Ion even stated they removed shadow word death for shadow priest because it was too complex for players.
(Yes , an ability that literally lights up when its time to use is too complicated!!)
- Most of the more complex abilities and talents were put into a separate pvp tree.
character stats menu
- Was simplified whereas before it would show you much more information about your characters stats.
- Now you are forced to download an addon to see what everything does from auto attack timers, to move speed to global cool down time.
Pvp templates
- Was designed to even the playing field in a mmo because casuals didn't have the time or skill to get the gear non casuals were able to obtain.
(Pvp use to have vendors that had rating requirements to receive gear.)
- Which completely ruined gear progression in pvp and made pvp much more dull and less rewarding.
I understand some people don't have much time to play but why should others suffer because of it?
You don't even have 10k chievos......do you even play the game to have such an opinionated opinion.
Sit down ya bum.
You don't even have LFR down so idk why you're complaining
10/30/2018 04:16 PMPosted by RalanbékYou don't even have 10k chievos......do you even play the game to have such an opinionated opinion.
Sit down ya bum.
I agree with, mmm... most of his points. Do I have enough chievos for you?
10/30/2018 03:37 AMPosted by Kïlljøÿ1. The person who plays more, pays more! thas a fact! a casual will get bored and unsub and go play fornite or something while a hardcore player is here putting +8 hrs a day in arenas.
Not a fact in any way. Casuals always have content in the game, raiders get bored because they're too good to do the content casuals do and play other games or unsub between raids or expansions, or like, right now.
I play 8+ hours a day. Does that make me hardcore? You need to examine your preconceptions and prejudices. I have so much to do in the game I'll never be finished.
2. i hit 120 about a week ago and got this gear from arenas in about 2 days!
Really, you never did arenas before and suddenly you were a glad! That's amazing progress.
3. How don't i know what im talking about? do you know what time gating is? maybe you should do some googling before you post on someones thread thinking you know what your talking about?
The other possiblity is that you are unwilling to accept the reality that other people get to exist even though they have different values than you do.
4. Nothing is rare now! everything is easily farmable or a lucky drop! You use to have to spend hours on top of hours to get things like grand marshal or scarab lord. again no clue what your talking about!
Nothing is rare, huh. Here's a guy who is willing to admit he doesn't understand basic arithmetic.
5. Why do you think im referring to pve? the majority of the player base plays wow to pvp, go check the static sites and dev tweets! you casuals swear no one play wow to pvp hahaha your all the same!
ROTFLMAO
Another admission that he doesn't understand arithmetic.
10/30/2018 02:49 PMPosted by KïlljøÿShow me proof the majority are casuals and bads.
Since when is casual synonymous with bad?10/30/2018 02:27 PMPosted by KïlljøÿNever seen it a single time and i watch post blues all day long.
Here's one such quote from Ion himself:
https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2935-Challenge-Mode-Gear-Procs-Hotfixes-Dev-Interviews-Appear-Offline-Blue-PostsLFR justifies the creation of more raid content when millions of players are able to see content. Only a few thousand people actually saw Kel'thuzad, but millions saw Deathwing. The reason Mists of Pandaria is starting with 18 bosses and adding larger raid tiers than we have had previously is because many players are going to see the raids through LFR.
The casuals who only do LFR make it possible for raids to continue being developed. If you like any kind of raiding, thank the casuals for making it possible.
Ok where in that link does it say there are more casuals than people who take the game seriously and have more time to play ?
I see ion say many players are going to see the raid in mist of pandaria through lfr.
That means the majority are casuals? no, they just gave casuals something to do.
10/29/2018 11:19 PMPosted by Kïlljøÿ
I understand some people don't have much time to play but why should others suffer because of it?
They don't. There's higher tiers of raiding/pvp than casual that require more time, are more challenging, are more rewarding for those who actually enjoy playing the game, and are more rewarding in the sense of cosmetics, xmogs, mounts, and of course much higher ilvl gear.
There is zero way ever that a casual will ever ruin their fun or have anything to do with how much they enjoy the game unless they're a complete dbag that can only enjoy the game if people already getting far less than they are get even less.
10/30/2018 04:33 PMPosted by KïlljøÿOk where in that link does it say there are more casuals than people who take the game seriously and have more time to play ?
I see ion say many players are going to see the raid in mist of pandaria through lfr.
That means the majority are casuals? no, they just gave casuals something to do.
Point in case of what I said earlier about him not accepting facts that go against his viewpoint.
He doesn't care for facts that don't agree with him. He's only looking for an echo-chamber.
Nope. Takes at least 30k to have a differing opinion. Beat it, lazy.10/30/2018 04:22 PMPosted by Rolder10/30/2018 04:16 PMPosted by RalanbékYou don't even have 10k chievos......do you even play the game to have such an opinionated opinion.
Sit down ya bum.
I agree with, mmm... most of his points. Do I have enough chievos for you?
Have we ever defined what makes someone a casual vs. a hardcore player? What if I only log in for mythic raiding? What if I log in everyday and do dailies?
10/30/2018 04:20 PMPosted by YzzamiYou don't even have LFR down so idk why you're complaining
I don't play wow to pve, you don't even have a single arena game played why are you posting about me slaying a npc?
10/30/2018 04:16 PMPosted by Ralanbék10/29/2018 11:19 PMPosted by KïlljøÿLFR, warfronts and Titantforge
- Gear progression is now pointless when you can just que LFR or warfronts and afk and collect free loot.
- Casuals are rewarded for being lucky rather than being skilled with lucky titanforges.
- If you are rewarded for being bad, then what's the reward for being good?
No more prestige
- Everything is so much easier to obtain now.
- From mounts, pets, titles, pvp titles, transmogs ect.
- If everything is easily obtained then the less prestigious it becomes and the less sought after it will be.
Time gating
- Everything is rewarding you for logging for a few hours a week.
- From chests, to reputation, mission tables, weekly quests and emissaries.
- This leaves non casual players with nothing to do.
Class design
- Every class was simplified and made similar with a builder/spender rotation and a 2-3 min burst cool down.
- Many baseline abilities were removed or added as talents.
- Ion even stated they removed shadow word death for shadow priest because it was too complex for players.
(Yes , an ability that literally lights up when its time to use is too complicated!!)
- Most of the more complex abilities and talents were put into a separate pvp tree.
character stats menu
- Was simplified whereas before it would show you much more information about your characters stats.
- Now you are forced to download an addon to see what everything does from auto attack timers, to move speed to global cool down time.
Pvp templates
- Was designed to even the playing field in a mmo because casuals didn't have the time or skill to get the gear non casuals were able to obtain.
(Pvp use to have vendors that had rating requirements to receive gear.)
- Which completely ruined gear progression in pvp and made pvp much more dull and less rewarding.
I understand some people don't have much time to play but why should others suffer because of it?
You don't even have 10k chievos......do you even play the game to have such an opinionated opinion.
Sit down ya bum.
10k achievment points? who cares about achievments? that's fun to you? a little message pops up on the screen and says you did something? lmao!
OP, feel free to join LFR and tell me how that goes. Everyone seems to think titanforged gear drops like crazy. I’m tired of a vocal minority crying over it. So what if a LFR guy/gal gets 1 355 from LFR? I sure as heck don’t. Because I mind my own business. If it titanforges higher than that, buy a lotto ticket because you’re a lucky sob. It’s rare. I feel that anyone bothered by someone getting an extremely rare upgrade probably didn’t like other kids playing with their toys even though they were not playing with them. That’s right. I’m calling you all children...man babies.
*que Wildstar main menu music* there you go. That's the MMO you want. See how it's on fire and sinking into the ocean? yeah. That's because what you want is terrible.
10/30/2018 03:38 PMPosted by JalenA warfront that doesn't allow for premades to queue for and is a rare farming zone in the open world
OK, now that's hilarious right there, LOL. Want to know why casuals and noobs refuse to queue for PvP? Pre-mades. Going in and getting farmed by an organized group of PvP "heroes" in full PvP gear, with coms, racking up free points isn't "fun". RBGs used to be a blast once upon a time, mostly a collection of equally clueless and skill less people with crap gear wailing on each other, on an equal basis. Now...not so much.
10/30/2018 04:56 PMPosted by Kïlljøÿ10k achievment points? who cares about achievments? that's fun to you? a little message pops up on the screen and says you did something? lmao!
Different folks, different strokes. I sorta think the same way about people whose entire self-image and self-worth is wrapped around killing imaginary e-bosses in a video game. But hey, live and let live. As long as we're all having fun in our various ways.