Casual players disappearing

Like what???

Not that I’m dismissing what you’re saying… But uhhh… That’s definitely not hardcore… At all.

The issue is that casual content requires a lot more work to complete. A new zone takes way more effort than changing a few numbers and adding 1 to a dungeon level. The art, assets, design and programing are all there. The testing is significantly less.

More importantly, you get a new zone, you go through it once… It’s done. Maybe you farm collectibles or whatever, but for the most part, the quests and story is a one off. Maybe you can do it again with an alt, but that certainly becomes tedious if you have to do it with 13, soon to be 14 characters.

Raids have certainly become more… Annoying the last 3 expansions, so hopefully they do what they say they’re gonna do and make less raid wipe mechanics and more “you done messed up, have a seat and watch everyone else do it” mechanics.

I think rated solo shuffle has the potential to be really good for a certain subcategory of casuals.

If you define a casual as someone who doesn’t raid (above LFR), doesn’t do M+ much or at all, and doesn’t do rated PvP much or at all, then I’m basically a casual, but I thought unrated solo shuffle was one of the best additions to the game in years

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Not to mention the so called casual players have been whining up a storm over on the classic forums. Retail is far more solo friendly than it was back then. You did not get raid quality gear from quests and once all quests were finished you either joined groups and did the harder content or moved on to another game. Funny how the people that bring up the sub drop always forget that little fact.

All you do is whine on the forums all day, you haven’t even played the game in multiple years. How can you type this with a straight face?

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It’s because casuals have a better game to play in FFXIV.

Why would they play Wow if that game gives them everything they want and more?

The bigger issue is with Wow constantly trying to force them into playing harder game modes. Its like the slimecat mount. Why can’t it be done in LFR? Why does it HAVE to be normal. I’d wager you’d get far more people actually doing it if they put it in LFR, but no they’d rather force the square peg into the round whole. And then wonder why their metrics suck. Slimecat was a bad example because it actually worked, but you get my point. I hope…

If Wow dies because of their mistreatment of that casual audience then good riddance.

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if a casual falls over in the forest and screams, but no one is around to hear it: does it make a sound?

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Who can blame them when all they see is whining and crying???

Hey everyone, casual player here. I hear there’s a rumor going around that I disappeared. Any truth to it?

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I can hear you but you appear to be invisible…

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well if you’re so hardcore that this is your game, wouldn’t you be the one with no life? If the casuals all quit, the 287 remaining players wouldn’t be able to keep this game alive for one month. You need us to survive, sucks don’t it?

What’s with some of you? Why the war on casuals? Both types of play are important for an MMO’s success.

Telling players to quit is just terrible for the game and the community. If you do that, chances are you are the one that needs to step away.

Trolling this on the discussion boards whenever you want to stop criticism or suggestions for change hurts Blizzard and WoW. It doesn’t help them or the game.

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It’s simple, their problem is that they’re too competitive. Video Games are for fun, regardless of what the people that think their life means something because they raid think. Casuals have always been the ones doing it right.

Games age and a lot of players move on to other games.

More news at 11.

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Tasha one problem… the only differences are you can see the rolls and you can opt out now…nothing else changed at all…

moron. you started of claiming you have never had anything to complain about for wow until now. then devolve into a rant about wows decline since 2011… claim u never came to the forums until just now, yet reference countless wow forum posts and drama…you don’t list a SINGLE thing wrong. you don’t give any feedback on fixing anything. all you say is casuals which is the most generalized broad term available to the wow playerbase, is getting screwed by hardcore players. you claim you paid for this and it got changed to something YOU don’t like and YOU are entitled to what YOU want. what about those customers satisfied with whatever you are ranting about? they don’t matter?

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I can’t even see your name.

and what exactly changed?

I agree with everything but FF being a better choice. I like WOW, I have for 14 years, and play almost every day. I enjoy chasing down mounts, pets,xmogs, achievements,etc… And I have fun. I know how to play, so if I go outside casual, I’m not wrecking anyone’s group. I hurt nobody playing my way. The problem isn’t casuals, it’s people thinking that the only ones complaining on the forums are casuals. Most of us that are truly casual are happy with the game and how we play it. It’s the casuals that want raid level gear as quest rewards, limited time stuff on the easiest lfr stuff, stuff to do at max level besides endgame because they don’t like any of the non serious stuff, etc… that get us all lumped together into this giant pool of people that everyone assumes is the same. If you’re having fun, and you’re not purposely putting yourself into content you have no business being in, do your thing, we’re the ones keeping this game alive.

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This is my favorite thing ever, thank you for this. Yes, those hardcore LFR players are going to be up a creek without a paddle.

If the game dies, it dies. I provide feedback on things I dislike just like everyone else should, but I’m not going to sit here and pretend I’m hostage to some “casual player” demands.