My PC answer. It’s not u fair. I worked hard and put in a bunch of time to make sure that not only was I ready for raid when it released, but also that I wouldn’t be holding my guild back. And whatever we don’t clear I will most likely pug. I use to only use lfr, for some reasons you put up (anxiety along others) until I just said I needed to try and people are years nicer than you think they are. We won’t ask you for much, but to just look up a guide or read the journal and have an idea of the abilities. If that is too hard, I would say that you aren’t entitled to raid. There are MANY things you can do besides that and to rely on the game to “help you experience everything” is plain silly.
Non PC. You sound like an annoying person that will probably complain about anything that you can. If this change this then you complain about something else. I see a therapist weekly due to my depression and anxieth, among other things, so I get it but simply don’t care. Trying to blame your game handicap with why you need to have lfr come out and experience the bosses before normal, heroic and mythic raiders is stupid and really it doesn’t make any sense.
I hope you are enjoying Shadowlands and that you don’t actually expect blizz to make this change
if you can do LFR you can do normal using premade groups. premade groups are faster to form than lfr. You get better gear. infact for thsi raid normal premade groups are easier. I deal with all things listed above traveling for work normally spending no more than a night in a city. flying multiple times a week to different cities for work and rarely working less than 10 hours in a day. I get that it can seem like you have no recourse but you do. LFR makes it seem like the raid requires 8 hours to clear 3 bosses. I cleared a normal run on my warrior last night at 3am CST using premade groups feature in 2 hours.
Again folks dont seem to understand…yes maybe YOU can do it, and that is great. But you must realize there are individuals who are not as fortunate, those that have to not cross a particular “line”. No matter how many people post here saying "I raid while in service, or raiding is possible with a constantly changing work schedule, etc…all that means that is what you are able to do and not what another person can do. Even though a player can only do LFR (given their situation, whatever may be) doesn’t mean they should have to wait the 2 months for the entire LFR to be released. Everyone is different, everyone has limitations on certain things in life, but those limitations don’t deserve that sort of wait time going to Feb. 2nd…Mythic raiders, Normal/Heroic raiders, LFR raiders should all be seen on an equal basis, just as all human beings should be seen, spoken to, and worked with on an equal basis.
If there are mythic raid groups that won’t clear mythic by February 2nd, and heroic groups that won’t clear heroic by February 2nd, and normal groups that won’t clear normal by February 2nd, why do believe LFR raiders should be able to bypass progression and get a full clear in the second week?
You’re not asking for equality, you’re asking for preferential treatment.
The Delay is nothing more then a cash crab by Blizzard trying to make the casuals keep their subs anyone that thinks the delay is some kind of fair mode put in by blizzard is delusional.
The LFR schedule is fine. Most casual guilds that are progressing are probably going to take that long just to get to the last boss. I’ll deal with the wait, for the convenience of not having to put a full raid group together every time, and hope it doesn’t fall apart after the first wipe.
On the plus side, this means that by the time LFR is completely open, all of its gear will be useless. Renown 7 for 184 pvp items and renown 22 or something for wq 184s.
LFR isn’t delayed until February. Each wing has a different release date, to simulate the progressive nature of raiding. The final wing of LFR will open in February, but the others are out before that.
common misconception is you raider seem never understand when you hard keep group together with derps leave after one wipe on normal mode witch happens all time.
common misconception raider tend be want rush things.
common misconception Normal mode easier than LFR is Not!
common misconception not every one is same!
common misconception raider tend act like special snowflake because the can do it.
common misconception the raiders think lfr releases so far part is fine and it’s not.
There’s no such thing as LFR being “progression” to anyone, or LFR wing delays having anything to do with “simulating progression”.
The actual reason(s) is:
To try and limit an incentive/opportunity for X difficulty raiders to see bosses on a difficulty they might not already be up to. An example first given in Throne of Thunder was that “Lei Shen is a real monster”, and they felt it would be anticlimactic if someone’s already killed him on LFR before their guild gets to killing him on Normal mode (this was before Mythic existed, so Normal/Heroic were serving different rules than they do now). Incidentally, they felt the need to make that comment because ToT was the first time they had a 2-week gap between wings (and only the later wings at that, because they didn’t want players to be sitting waiting too long for the wing to release before they saw “content”).
In that similar vein, maintain an incentive for players to continue progressing in Normal etc. because it’s less attractive to sit on your behind for months to see the cinematic version. They want people to continue to see actual raiding as raiding, not drop out of raiding to be content with “seeing” it on LFR.
Remove as much opportunity as possible for players to want to dice roll on LFR for benefits for their chosen other difficulty level (in case they mess up and have this super OP trinket or w/e). People might remember the days when even something like an LFR Rune of Re-Origination was far supremely BiS for some specs only eventually matched by the higher difficulties of Dragon Soul.
It doesn’t quite make as much sense nowadays though. Normal mode is designed to be an introductory mode that players should breeze through to the end, LFR gear is trivial to the point of useless, there’s no tier sets or anything like that, it’s usually devoid of the flavour of the month system (lol @ the idea of anyone trying to build a Rank 3 essence through LFR clears back in BFA), no one ever really sees or saw LFR as any sort of progression, and it’s odd that they’ve gone from very rarely having a 2-week gap only for later wings to forcing 2-week gaps as the new default (a trend started in late WoD) when if anything the gaps should be contracting downward given that Normal mode exists in its current state - really, by week 3/4 the entire raid tier should be available at this point.
Not hard in an F&F guild, which is who is progressing normal. It’s also not a big deal that people rotate in pugs.
It’s unclear what you mean by this.
You’re wrong. It’s not the difficulty of the content, but the shear ability of the raid. There are people afk in LFR that make it more difficult and no standards at all for people at all.
Not in question. That’s why there are 3 legitimate difficulties.
Mythic - the boss
Heroic - typically the bosses nerfed for casuals
Normal - the bosses nerfed even further so you can bring friends and disabled family members
LFR - probably should be replaced with a cut scene at this point.
You speak of fairness, and choice - in a world where beggars can’t be choosers.
Sucks you can’t treat your depression/anxiety. Really it does. But not a game issue. Other health concerns can be an issue (arthritis was one for us) - but IRL problems should not impact game play to the extent you’re asking for.
Sucks you choose to not be in a guild.
Sucks that you believe there aren’t teams that raid when you want.
Why must this scale be balanced?
Why are your needs more important?
LFR exists to provide a means for those who cannot do, or refuse to.
Eh. If you cant invest the time to guild raid least a casual normal raid guild then the wait matters little. I do suffer from anxiety panic disordr and depression and I dont let that effect me…its a game and a game h@s no impact in my life other then to have fun. If your “health issues” are that bad…i dont think an mmo is the game for you. As lfr is a diet coke of raid and is more stress inducing then normals jist get a guild and stop allowing yourself to be a victim of your emotions…
you couldn’t be more wrong in your sweeping generalization that, for all players, pugging normal mode raids in LFR is equally as convenient or successful as LFR
you’re either intentionally misrepresenting it or you are just clueless as to the differences in the experience and time/friction in grouping
gonna have to go ahead and ignore you now as an unreliable source for anything but full throated disinformation