Every single one of you that mentions RDF have no idea what you’re talking about. RDF wasn’t in WotLK until near the end.
Get over it.
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wrong kid, RDF came exactly in middle of wotlk
probably you wasn’t even born if you don’t know such fact.
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Rdf came out with ice crown.
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Terrible point to make considering it’s still s5…
Invalidates your “original wrath devs argument”
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wotlk release date 13 November 2008
RDF released on 8 December 2009
Cata released on December 7, 2010
So Yes RDF came in mid of wotlk and lasted for 1year, during that 1year of wotlk with RDF subs was increasing and reached the peak before cata-prepatch hits where the game started to downfall because everyone believed that the death of Arthas is the death of the game and non was interested in death-wing story.
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Ok, does that also apply to dual spec since that wasn’t a thing in season 5 but was a Wrath change?
That wasn’t part of the original wrath devs?
Or RDF since it was in 3.3 (and should be in the game like every other feature native to the expansion)?
The original Wrath devs were all in on rating requirements. They started with the idea in season 3 of TBC and doubled downed hard for all 4 Wrath PvP seasons. That is core to Wrath.
They added it in the ICC patch.
I think those dates show that Wrath was the first expansion to really have a massive content drought.
When “halfway though an expansion” is the same as “final raid tier/content patch” it’s…ouch.
Mmr was super inflated in wrath though. We just got a crappy mmr inflation system. Challenger, rival, duelist and glad/r1 was all hundreds of points higher in original wotlk.
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So lets just say you’re correct, for the sake of argument, people complaining about not having RDF RIGHT NOW are ridiculous.
Well you missed the point. Just saying that statement diddnt help your cause.
Another thing that people fail to realize with rating is the “hidden mmr” that existed.
If in s5 you got to 2000, at the start of s6 your hidden mmr was still intact. Playing your first game of the season at 0 rating, you were fighting others with similar to 2k mmr.
This caused on a win at low rating, gain a lot of rating, and on a loss rating would only drop a little. Making it quick and easy to get back to “last season” rating within a week or 2.
This has a large effect on the whole pool because the bottom of the barrel was still hidden mmr of 1500 going into new seasons, and helped them get back to ~1500 range when that start at 0 change occured.
Today the bottom of the barrel is like 1100 mmr. Around 65% can’t even reach 1500, while back then, around 65% couldn’t reach 1900.
This is why people believe the rating requirements should be reduced a bit to align with current ratings amongst the player base.
It apparently is, in fact, rocket science.
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I’m confused, what’s stopping your friend from buying 4/5 hateful? Only shoulders need rating for hateful.
People forget things that complicate reality.
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Funny that blizz don’t change things that are obviously bad design, like pvp gear gated behind arena rating, especially since recently they tried it again in shadowlands and fail miserably, but things that are obviously good design, like RDF, they took out of the game.
It makes no sense.
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Those original devs also made you start somewhere in the 1200’s ratings, not starting at zero, IIRC.
Stop making things up. If you have to lie to support your position, that should tell you something about your position.
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Starting at 0 rating began in season 6 of Wrath.
And what season are we on now?
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if to think with same logic…then
-having the last patch class balance right now is so wrong,
-and having heroics drop epic items is so wrong “those epic items was only added in toc patch 8months into expansion not in day1 of wrath”
-and having nerfed glories and some other things is so wrong…
what can i say? we got every features and changes that final patch brought except RDF which drop the whole of idea “RDF did not came with release”
i’m not saying that this is a right or wrong thing to do by removal rdf but people are so damn hypocrite with their reasons.
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The one where Blizzard used final patch as the basis for systems (except no RDF for some stupid reasons)?
Like how we have dual spec right now even though that wasn’t part of season 5?
Or how we don’t even have arena teams anymore even though those existed all throughout Wrath?