Cancel culture = Liberal utopia
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I think gatekeeping should be canceled.
But thatâs just me.
They tried to cancel Wendyâs over the tomatoes. They failed.
They tried to burn down a Wendyâs in Atlanta. They failed.
Here we stand, unashamedly still enjoying delicious Baconators. And they, just, keep, failing!
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They cancelled jenna marbles Iâve been watching her since early day YouTube. Im furiousâŠ
oh please donât remind me of that - that came out before last election and he still got 62 million votes.
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While I understand this, there is the other side of the coin. You mentioned rainn. The problem with talking about saying false accusations compared to legit ones⊠how do we know? How many false allegations do we âactuallyâ detect? If you remove the legal requirement of evidence, how many more people will make false allegations that will ruin lives and we will never know they were false, because the need for evidence is just not there? If people realize that all it will take a finger point and BOOM the person is locked up, how many false allegations will increase because it would be SO EASY? The problem with rainnâs asseration is that it will rely on the goodwill of the accuser⊠and you know what? People are SAVAGES.
And this is where my own personal scars run so deep. If people like you had your way, Iâd be in jail right now. You know what? I GOT LUCKY because I have evidence that proved my case⊠but you talk about victims being unable to produce evidence. Well, under a false accusation, most wouldnât have evidence to defend themselves either. Itâs called having to prove a negative. You are just swapping the non-evidence bit to the other party and relying on the good will of people to keep the system honest. That will never work, people people are not honest.
To this day, I sometimes wake up from nightmares from what I went through. Youâve zero idea how utterly damaging the entire thing was for me, and even after it was all over, my accuser was able to walk away scott-free with zero punishment despite the pure hell they put me through. That you would just discount the warnings that I put forth? Utterly disgusting. Do I have a solution? Well no, not really. But flipping the hat to the other head and allowing people to just point at another person and utterly destroy them on their word alone is no solution at all, and will just create an entirely different set of victims.
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Swiftys getting an outrageous amount of support tonight. +1250 subs and counting and hella donoâs
You mean like how people tried boycotting Starbuckâs because they got rid of the Christmas cups? Yeah, thatâs the Fox News hypocrisy; they posture themselves on their perch and exempt themselves from pretty much everything as if theyâre special and the saviors of society.
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Good for him.
They didnât cancel her. She canceled herself.
maybe a little bit off-topic, but often times I think the punishment is FAR worse than the crime, because not only do you get the punishment from our legal system, celebrities are often shamed and exposed to the entire world, basically, on top of their careers being destroyed. Itâs crazy to me. If theyâre (un)lucky enough theyâll even get books/documentaries/movies to cement their wrong doings in history forever.
Wait Iâm confused. I thought when the other thing happened with joshpriest or something, everyone was saying how the right thing to do was to suspend him temporarily until the investigations wrap up. But they didnât, so now Method is taking heat and Preach feels betrayed by them and everyone got on board to cancel culture that. So now with this new controversy, the supposed ârightâ thing to do is to suspend until the investigations are carried out. But the playerbase is now jumping in and saying that Blizz is overreacting? When that was the right thing people said Method shouldâve take with the other guy?
Something isnât adding up with the narrative.
Perhaps but the reverse is also true. Someone being accused is in the same predicament. Theyâre not in the capacity (nor should they have to be) to record themselves constantly in order to prove they havenât done anything. Itâs ridiculous to expect something like that from accuser and equally ridiculous to expect it from the accused. However, despite the fact that weâll rarely ever have something as convenient as recorded evidence to prove or disprove and accusation, itâs still important to do our best to uncover as many facts as possible.
When allegations or accusations such as these are made they should always be taken seriously and there should always be thorough investigation in order to uncover the truth or as much of the truth as possible. However, itâs also important to make sure due process is being followed. Decisions and punishments that have the potential to ruin peopleâs careers, reputations and lives need to be made extremely carefully and shouldnât be rushed into.
Itâs an awesome thing that social media has made it so itâs harder for such accusations to be ignored, but the public shouldnât be playing the role of judge, jury, and executioner.
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Read up on the restraining order. While a conviction is much more difficult, getting a restraining order only requires one single lie.
Not that the FOX news âWar on Christmasâ isnât ridiculous fear mongering to extreme Christians, but it would be a stretch to label that McCarthyism. Like boycotting Chick Fillet over their christian policies, would be hard to call that McCarthyism.
But going after jobs, black listing and de platforming PEOPLE over accusations, thoughts, beliefs, and speech, thatâs definitely the tactic there.
And the extremes on both sides are hypocrites. The left is trying to change the definition racism to not include their identity politics. Itâs only racist if youâre in power.
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I think assuming that I know nothing of false accusations is a pretty bold claim to make when you know nothing about me.
I am sorry you had such an awful experience. I agree with you that false accusations need to be discussed. However, to say that an accused person cannot produce evidence in the way the accuser canât is utterly false. They can have an alibi with witnesses that speak for them. Thereâs also circumstantial evidence, character evidence, demonstrative evidence, analogical evidence, and so forth. These are cases of evidence that an accuser does not have in many situations, because were you to accuse someone of these things, you would need legitimate, concrete evidence that proves it happened to you.
In any case, Iâm sorry again for what happened to you, but to bring back the point of cancel culture ruining livelihoods:
Sounds to me as though cancel culture is a propagated myth.
Just because its not the case for everyone, doesnt mean it doesnt existâŠ
Police officers, school teachers and many, many other industries have policies of administrative leave while investigating claims made by members of the public.
They donât get âcancelledâ just because they are removed from their jobs while people investigate the validity of claims.
You sound like someone who has no idea how the world actually works, just holding your own bias, probably based on YouTube comments and reddit threads.
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So in your post you say explicitly that the majority of men accused of sexual assault walk free, which means they were innocent, or there was a lack of evidence. Which, implies that the majority of cases are based on untrue/baseless accusations. Then you say Believe Women?
Look how about donât take sides, and let the facts be presented. Do men assault women, of course we all know and understand that as a sad fact. However, women also lie about sexual assault all the time, for all kinds of reasons. You canât just crucify a guy, ruin his life, and then later, when he is proven innocent, say oh well Believe Women. Toodles 
Thatâs honestly just plain evil, no different than shamming a rape victim, and then finding out she was being truthful, and saying oh well thatâs life, trust men.
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UK police investigated the claims and found nothing.
what the F do you expect method to do that the police didnât?