Dual wield is a baseline ability that requires no runes, you just swap to 2 weapons with RB and click shaman rage, it snapshots your AP and then you switch back to your usual weapons which will have mana oil/oils.
Double AP weapons and double daggers off arcanist doan is going to be pretty standard from the looks of it.
Paladins better not be complaining at ALL. lol
That can me macrod reasonably well, but itâs till very clunky (especially with having to reapply the RB to each weapon at a global per.)
But it still brings in a lackluster amount of Mana for just RB/Str weapons.
Tested again right before servers went down, and my elemental shaman with twin rockbiter was bringing in 60mana per second so thatâs 900 mana every minute.
Thatâs a greater Mana potion on a 1min CD.
Twin RB 5 + Str Weapons giving 750 AP (710 for RB, 40 for Weapon/Natural AP as a guess)
Will be giving back 1125 mana.
Thatâs ALMOST 7 casts of r7 Lightning boltâŚon a minute CD. Even less mana if you have to reapply Double RB5
âŚNext to the Druid that just starts casting wrath whenever needs it needs to get itâs mana back, assuming it ever didâŚ
I suspect this is going to be the case, but it still wonât be pretty.
The devs clearly focused on getting shaman tank up and running at the expense of all other specs. Time is limited and not every class/spec is going to get the attention it needs, and I think they made the right decision to hold off on the DPS specs until p2.
I say this as an enh shaman main in SoD, the spec absolutely sucks, but hopefully will get the attention it deserves in p2. If 2h enh isnât good iâll either swap to ele, or drop the shaman for a warrior.
Enh bis is double bite of serakis
Translation: âShaman didnât become crazy strong and it isnât Fairâ˘â
Solution: Realize weâre level 25, Shaman DPS in Vanilla was always janky thanks to needing a lot of column A and B (Elemental and Enhancement) to function, take heart that many of your Runes are set to scale exceptionally well and look forward to Phase 2.
This is the correct take.
I hope youâre correctâŚ
But they didnât hold back on the Druid in the slightest.
Dagger is a pretty poo choice for Lava LashâŚ
Fixed that for you.
All the other great runes now are going to scale just as well if not better in later content. (Wrath is a free cast⌠a FREE cast, no matter the rank- that only gets better, Double Poisons on top of WF/WS are never going to go out of style, 25% increased rage for damage and 20% attack speed is never going to fall off⌠etc etcâŚ)
The rest of the Enhancement Talent tree is just a much worse warrior tree.
Food for thought: Warriors are already among the top DPS (Assuming they havenât overtaken rogues just yet) and theyâre notoriously âbadâ before level 30âŚ
Well thatâs what I was trying to get at, some classes/specs got a lot more love than others, because dev time is limited. Shaman was never a good damage dealer until lvl 30 for enh, and lvl 40 with ele. They were a very good bunker class in low level pvp, and a decent filler for group content in pve. p2 should be our time to shine, and with how much effort was put into ret pallies, feral druids, and destruction warlocks, they should have had plenty of time to work on 2h enh. Time will tell!
Youâre focusing on the part of Druid they did help out a ton (similar to Tank Shaman), but stuff like Bear is in a really bad spot and will only get worse in the future (just posted a huge wall of text about it).
HARD disagree, itâs 900 or 1800 mana per fight for just yourself. More if you snag battle shout.
if 5 others benefit its DOUBLE the value.
It will be nerfed or horde will walk through Molten core and BWL without ever stopping to drink.
I really hope youâre correct.
Iâm not sure I fully understand the point of your thread. Itâs about shaman dps performance being poor, correct?
Shamans get extra health and the 6% crit chance reduction, but thatâs about it compared to warriors. (Molten blast is a bit better than Thunderclap in having significant damage and have direction, but they serve the same purpose.)
Rockbiter is nice, but itâs not as good as Devastate since devastate is an extra attack for 90% damage and increased threat.
But where Warrior heavily outshines Shaman is in the defensives and CDs.
Shaman gets Stoneskin (but so can warrior if shaman in party.)
Shield Block on top of Shield Specialization with a revenge followup is just not something Shaman can do.
Warriors get rage when they get slapped by a big spell as well as melee dmg. Shamans donât get mana back if the mobs are casters.
Donât get me wrong, I LOVE being able to tank on a shamanâŚbut itâs only just now viable, not OP.
Hopefully P2 gives us a defensive that isnât just âremove the walk after you die.â
Poor DPS, and boring/clunky.
Auto attacks
A Shock (Which has to be witheld for interrupt on casters)
LavaLash (Boring) Lava Burst (clunky)
Shaman literally got one of the best single PvP runes for ANY spec with 30% stam, 10% Dr, and 6% crit immunityâŚ
With one runeâŚ
Go resto
Go elemental
Go enhance
This rune is amazing for any in PvPâŚ
And press buttons for about 7 seconds before being a warrior that cannot have rage. (Way of Earth has no resource regen.)
Has the strongest tank spec, complains.
Projected to be one of the best healers, complains.
This is false.
Itâs viable, still isnât the best.
(A prot warrior with devastate, furious thunder, Warbringer, and an IQ above room temp is better than a shaman tankâŚand theyâre not even level 30 yet.)
I think you are missing how crazy good chain heal is going to be with overload, it was an amazing spell before, should be even better now.
Thats a skill issue if the class that produces more threat from autos cant hold
Devastate is an additional attack on top of AutosâŚit does more damage (than just autos), and causes Sunders.
(And then thereâs the mobility from Warbringer)
Shaman tank and Resto are good.
Enh is just an autoattack windfury cope simulator I donât know why people like this spec.
Ele prob not gonna be as good for PVP as it was for era seeing as how everyone has crazy dmg now and ele has low tools and short range.