No it actually shouldn’t.
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I’m down. Mostly because I’m super interested in what word they’d use forthe next level of difficulty after Mythic goes the way of Heroics and gets nerfed because now being a queued content means a wider skill base is interacting with it.
I’m going to regret opening this can of worms but what is R+?
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They kinda did already, they just rebranded it as Heroics.
Any raid beyond LFR would be my guess.
It’s meant to be the stepping stone into group content.
You can always unsub, not sure why people want content they don’t do removed.
but if I was doing season 3 DF dps in lfr at 80… I guess it would be impossible to get invited to anything
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Only if there’s no deserter debuff.
And no backfilling.
M0 yes definitely, M+ no. It wouldn’t solve anything and it would honestly make them more toxic. Especially with the way the deserter buff currently works.
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you mean rifling through players to carry you when the player who left had enough of dealing with you? Yea, no thanks.
I think it would be fine for M0, especially with an ilvl req attached to it. However, there are way too many issues with having +2 and beyond in a matchmaking tool, especially if you can fill mid run. Someone leaves or gets booted before the last boss, someone comes in and you kill it… do they get IO for that completed key even though they were just in for the last boss? Does the person who left or gets booted get IO?
What happens when a priest healer gets matched up with a spriest, boomie, some other caster, and a non ppal tank? Casts would annihilate that group. The failure rate of matchmaking in M+ would be very high - especially considering that (in my opinion) most of the better players would still opt for manually creating groups, leaving only the weaker players in matchmaking and compounding their issues.
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It’s just going to end up being all the DPS who can’t get invited under the current system and people who are trying to learn to tank or heal. Good luck with that.
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The problem with this is that queued content is designed around being near-100% success rate. M0 isn’t particularly hard, but it is harder than heroics by a significant amount and there’s no stacking buffs like LFR.
As long as it didn’t affect M+ or introduce ridiculously high gear rewards like Delves that force me to do them, I would be ok. I don’t care what other people do. Have fun in your H+
Sure, but then people would say, well why don’t we add +2s to the LFG tool? Those are easy too!
I don’t see this as a good replacement for anything, nor would it solve any problems. It would just force people to queue with you, and if that’s your end goal, at least say that I guess.
You’re able to run +0s now for practice. You can do a friend/guild group and not worry about the timer.
This whole “tiered rewards” for an already tiered reward system in an end game of tiered reward systems is just silly.
The reason you have a tank and healer shortage is because those specs favor coordinated gameplay. Likewise, the reason there is an overabundance of tanks applying to end-game guilds is because those settings are more constructive to that play style.
Imo, to make a lfg M+ system viable, you would have to remove the healing and tanking roles entirely, and allow 5 dps to que together in a way that they could complete the activity. This would ofc mean a total rework from the ground up as to how M+ should function.
Otherwise, I foresee LONNNNG wait times for dps in such a lfg, because tanks and healers will likely stick to the current format due to not wanting to surrender what little coordination they have in group formation.
Lfr, hero raid, hard mode raid, mythic raid. There should be normal raid. Not 4 different difficulties. If they want harder modes, make progressive content and quit being lazy.
Ah so just delete the idea of progress raiding. Cool.
Glad I asked.
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Hi repeated argument for the last 20 years.
First it was “no, don’t do a que for dungeons, they can’t handle it”
Then it was “no, don’t do a que for raids, they can’t handle it”
Then it was “no, we can’t have raid teams with flexible sizes, the mechanics would never work”
Then it was “No, we can’t have a solo que for pvp, that will never work”
So yeah, tell me more about the que for Mythic+ is impossible.
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