Can we get fresh?

You do understand Blizzard is a business (and a multinational billion dollar corporation at that) and not the make a wish foundation right? For chrissakes dude get a grip.

You want fresh vanilla - noted. You dont have to convince me though, go convince Blizzard. I hope for your sake there are better ambassadors than you.

Blizzard owns candy crush, whis absolutely DEMOLISHES retail wow in sales and it’s not even close.

So why continue developing retail wow if candy crush makes astronomical profits?

Easy.

Expansion of reach.

Getting as many players as possible to the IPs

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People have been trying to explain to you why it is for weeks man. You’re willfully ignoring the player’s reasons for wanting fresh start servers.

If you want reasons from prudent developers on why–exactly–fresh starts are compelling to players and the companies making them, this video gives some great reasons:

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He will just ignore it and pretend he knows better than the game developers themselves, and the actual companies themselves. Who are able to see the profits and participation.

Thanks for the Path of Exile link but we’re not discussing Diablo here, which PoE has much more in common with. It helps to keep things in their proper context. Yes, Baseball and Football are both games and both are played in stadiums. Thanks for the heads up.

Completely incorrect. I’m saying you wanting them doesn’t mean we need them and they don’t subsequently produce undeniably great and wholesome outcomes guaranteed as the people wanting them dogmatize to an absurd degree.

We don’t need them you just want them. Some of you are at least subconsciously aware of this which is why you move it from the realm of personal preference (opinion) and attempt to jam a round peg into a square hole by jarringly forcing into an argument or debate in which you’ve already presumed you won.

The problem there is the most basic of facts of the matter don’t line up with your narrative so you simply resolve the impasse by ignoring them and just go on the offensive with any who dare question your faith.

To me, its just easier and more honest to say “I think it would be swell to have some Fresh servers one day, hopefully sooner than later” instead of trying to convince everyone that they are 100% necessary - or else.

So if you wanna argue for the sake of it, here’s what you’re up against: They are not at all needed or necessary and you can still progress through the game in a very similar vain on an already existing server (that requires a little effort and imagination though so its no wonder why some of you cant be bothered). Simply not caring about any of your past toons and/or only being able to play via a fresh start through arbitrary phases is a personal preference and not a fact based and scientific stance chiseled into an ancient stone that is hoary with age.

imagine writing this novel instead of just saying “you know what, i apologize. you’re right. seasonal play makes a lot of sense, even if i personally do not like it” :expressionless:

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I didn’t even read it. This guy is a grumpy grandpa. Mad that the millennials are living life differently than him etc

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And each new game starts with a score of 0 - 0 and has ultimate win-conditions. I wonder why?

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He does not accept teality obviously

No one said anything about any expansions. Stop assuming everyone loves seassons and fresh servers. It gets stale after a while, Arielba.

stop assuming nobody does
and what you suggest is the same amount of work as an expansion. in other words, it ain’t happenin’ bub

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Nobody is talking about era forever people bro.

We are not including you at all in fresh… You are free to play era forever

Fresh has been tried in som1, it wasn’t enough to get people away from tbc and won’t be enough for wrath, especially when people can start preping for icc. Probably would need plus servers.

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lol, the whole reason we aren’t getting fresh is because they don’t want to drag people away from wrath or retail right now

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You already have seasonal play in the form of SoM.

No one is trying to take that away from you no matter how hard you can delude yourself into thinking otherwise so you can hang in a discussion you lost from the first post. Dodging that discussion so you can throw down some trite, bush league snark tells the qualified observer everything they need to know about the “righteousness” of your cause. You don’t have a case, oh well, lol @ u.

The mere fact that Blizz went the SoM route instead of just rehashing “Vanilla” over and over again should tell you everything you need to know about your preferred playstyle - its desirability, validity and longevity - but that escapes you somehow like most other things related to common sense.

Youre not getting fresh era servers. Just deal with it like an adult. Enjoy SoM2 and pray for an SoM3.

Era does feel like a Fresh/Som2 waiting room lmao

I usually get annoyed at ur posts, but good job

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Arrogant jerk. Dude, not everyone can clear wow content in 1 year.

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Thanks bubba.

You’re just making my case for me. Thanks for highlighting one of the issues with incessant restarts and the people who find them necessary.

But keep slinging mud if you think that helps you in any way. Freakin tools.

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