Joining a faction doesn’t change your race to something else. Just be truthful and admit you want to role play as a specific sub-faction.
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Which they can with the silver covenant tabard and mount, you can do the same for Shadow Pan.
You don’t need a bran new race when those races already exist to play as that sub faction.
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My panda rocks that Shado-pan transmog ( the Flowing water set with Shado-pan hat) all the time. It’s one of my favorites.
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Yes. Also News about PTR that Silver Covenant were braught back to Dalanar! For midnight expansion.
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I prefer Silvermoon to remain Blood Elf only. Not remotely interested in making a ‘HighElf’ Ally side, But-----The peak of bad writing???Are Horde- who burned an entire city full of Nelfs now allowed in the new Nightelf City?
Have you spent an hour doing the Worgen start area where Forsaken and Sylvanas burn, flood, invade Gilneas city? ( Sylvanus shoots at Greymane to kill him but instead kills his son) Now Forsaken can come into the city and Sylvanus banner is even there!
Bad writing, definitely! But, for whatever reason, Blizzard seems to be intent on destroying the historical grievances between the races that often is what made the story interesting.
It is for many people though.
Sylvanas and all others responsible for teldrassil are gone. Jaina and Vereesa are alive and were never punished. Go Figure.
For over a thousand years knights from European countries rode around burning down the cities of neighboring countries. Now they are all NATO allies. So is that bad writing? Problem is, it’s true.
As the old saying goes, countries don’t have friends, they have “interests”.
One decade’s enemy is another decade’s ally.
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What Metzen says, especially what he said nearly 20 years ago, is not gospel. He handles the lore callously, misspeaks, forgets, changes his mind… etc… he is unreliable.
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Metzen said that in 2005. Before tbc was even finished in development, back then blood elves were different not only from high elves, but also from the current trash we call blood elves.
Agree however that it’s good we continue to stomp down the helfers. They truly are a plague…
This is a terrible comparison and a terrible argument for so many reasons…
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Aye, I can see your view and I don’t mean to knock it by any means.
Just sharing my thoughts. The idea of getting Naga is a very tantalizing one and I do hope they do so somewhere down the line, hopefully with care and love for the race.
Its a good sell!
Honestly I feel more interested in Naga now than I did before our talk so. 
I feel like, just as Soulebreaker said, the San’layn are a much more possible thing for the Horde as much of that request still has not been met.
Felblood Elves though are also a very good idea. I’d love to see both to expand Blood Elven sub groups.
I mean… isn’t that the whole request really?
I know some folk take it really far and want more but at the core the request for High Elves is to play the group that stuck with the Alliance.
Got two flavors of em. Sure there are a few more things people request regularly for them but lets not pretend folk can’t be high elves if they want to.
Biologically they are. Ideologically they aren’t.
True.
(or at least mostly true as there are neutral high elves as well.)
Well… then perhaps you should pop into the old naga megathread! I recently necro’d it but no one seemed to notice it :c
I also will probably try to post on reddit about it since supposedly the devs pay more attention there…
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Good point, I will only add, that we were talking about ‘good writing’, and long standing feuds, animosity, Machiavellian politics, and such, makes for much more interesting plots.
It’s a perfect analogy. That’s why you didn’t give one of those “reasons”.
Enemy burns down city now they are allies.
Some of us noticed.
I have reservations about that particular thread due to its hostility towards other AR requests.
I really wish someone with a more even hand and time to do a good AR thread would make a new Naga one.
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I want Void Elves to have a much better range of customizations, but I wouldn’t mind a separate High Elf race at all either! Mostly because it would let them have their own heritage armor.
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Technically, but honestly at this point, the game has changed so drastically much I feel like who cares anymore, just let them have it! 
The idea of High Elves as a separate race is a similar comparison to Blood Elf Blood Knights, Draenei Vindicators Tauren Sunwalkers and Zandalari Prelates. Sunwalkers, Blood Knights, Vindicators, and Prelates have slightly different aesthetics than more traditional Human/Dwarf paladins. They may have differences in how they wield their power (via An’she, Loa worship, forcibly via a Narru) but in the end they are all Paladins. High Elf vs. Blood Elf debate is the same. They may live in different places, have different eye colors, wear special tabards, call themselves different things, but in the end they are all the same race of elves.
Reading this thread there doesn’t seem to be any commonality outside of the vague blanket of “We want High Elves on Alliance!” between those clamoring for them. Some want them so they can stay on their chosen faction for RP or game reasons. Others seem to believe that surface level differences in opinions or politics between Sin’dorei and Quel’dori warrant a new race all together. No one has been able to articulate a logical rational reason why this very small sect of people should be added as playable race. It always circles back to “Because…reasons!”
Saying people have wanted High Elves since Warcraft 2 is laughable (as some people here have) because WC2 came out in 1995 and I find it next to impossible to believe that there were people back then asking to play as High Elves in an MMO that the developers weren’t even sure they were going to make in 1995. Further in WC3 we see what happens to the Quel’dorei and how they were “reborn” as the Sin’dorei during the campaign. The Blood Elves became the defacto replacement for High Elves game wise. WC3 only alludes to the fact that there might be more than a handful of elves alive who still consider themselves High Elves. The vast majority followed Kael as their leader at that point. Even when WoW released in 2004 there was scant references to High Elves, and much more in regard to Blood Elves (which was still a small amount in the grand scheme of vanilla WoW).
It at about the time TBC came out that some interest was shown to possible playable High Elves due to the surge in popularity of Blood Elves, but again, outside of a very small amount of NPC High Elves they were pretty much nonexistent. Again, there were some High Elf npc’s and the Silver Covenant faction but that was never illustrated to be more than a small cabal of hold outs, not a full-fledged population vying to be a new race.
Which leads me back to my stance that there is nothing that differentiates a small amount of High Elf npc’s from the existing much larger population of Blood Elves. They share the same lineage, geneology, and dynastic history. The things that differ are their attitude towards Kael’thas leadership, loyalty to the Alliance and…nothing else.
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As much as I don’t want another elf race, the vamp elves should be added as their own race only because they are, or at least I think they are one of the few races that comes with wings like those blue guys from Shadowlands. I think more races should be able to be able to do the dragon flying thing like the drak’things.
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We know they’d probably just give us the tiniest wings possible like the transmog ones. 
There’s a certain irony in how a Pandaren is the one to hold this opinion. I see that you’re a Horde Pandaren.
Let’s imagine for a moment that Pandaren were added, but as an Alliance race. Yet, Ji Firepaw and that school of Pandaren were with the Horde, were involved in Horde content, had settlements in Horde territory, and were visibly present amongst the Horde in just about every expansion since the game launched.
Would you hold the opinion that the Houjin Pandaren shouldn’t be playable?