Can we finally get playable the high elves?

I would much prefer faction be a choice rather than new race options being added which further dilutes the race options we have. At this point in lore, especially post-dragonflight, it would make sense too what with cross faction guilds (Cross-Faction Adventuring Parties) and everyone genuinely working together with NO fighting.

Faction becoming a choice would make a lot of people angry though so I understand if that’s not in the cards.

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Blood elves absolutely have not, at any point, stolen the spotlight from horde races in storytelling

Let’s do a quick recap

  • In Wrath they were pushed to the Wyrmrest storyline, which while good (my favorite part of Wrath even), leads to them being overshadowed by orcs in the literal sequel to Frozen Throne.

  • In Cata blood elves only exist to be the butt of homophobic jokes outside of Zul’aman v2.0 - most reliquary content got cut to the point where Tae’thelan is just forlornly wandering in a zone as a horde elite without any content.

  • Mists is the first time the blood elves got a full patch to themselves since BC and it’s the first time the “Lor’themar who?” memes started to die a bit, mostly setting up Quel’thalas’s role in the rebellion

  • Warlords has blood elves in a side plot in Talador about helping the AU Draenei, that plot goes nowhere because the raid tier it was meant to be for got cut

  • Legion has an understandably large blood elf showing mostly because the islands are heavy on elf content in general. I’ll at least concede that they took most of the horde spotlight (as part of the all-elven contingent for Suramar and the main horde presence on Argus)

  • BFA, again, blood elves are mostly absent except for sporadic bits in scenarios and Lor’themar and Thalyssra having the spotlight in Nazjatar (understandably, imo Nazjatar would work better as an elf patch like Suramar instead of having Jaina godmode and lecture through the place).

  • Shadowlands… Kael’thas gets a few chapters in a covenant. Much overshadowing, very spotlight.

  • Dragonflight - A mostly balanced expedition headlined by a blood elf is not “hogging the spotlight” lmao

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high elves are not void or blood elves. We have 3 different factions. As in-game is shown, high, void, blood, quel’dorei, ren’dorei, sin’dorei.

Midnight is expansion for elves. So i believe that high elves will be playable once and for all.

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We don’t have Humans, we have New Zelanaders, Albanians, and Canadians! Thats how you sound.

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Shes poking at all three of the leaders of those groups in front of her. Elisande isn’t saying wide ranging truths shes taunting specific people. She didn’t say a single one of their names and yet what she choose to say is meant to poke each ones pride in their people.

Oh I’m not dead set on the Alliance getting them. I’m just still stuck on Blizzard original desire for them to be Alliance.

I’ll take em either way.

Oh I’m aware. Just having one front and center where we have a lot more ease of access to their stories is what I mean.

Sure, I mean I’m not so focused on it that I would really try to change your mind. My only concern would be that turning a predominantly matriarchal society somewhat patriarchal by having their leader be male despite the culture may be a misstep for the depiction of that culture where it would be so easily seen by your average player.

This one I might argue. Its not which we saw first so much as which does actually represent them in general.

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Except she very clearly was.

She called out the Quel’dorei for mingling with “lesser” races.

She called out the Blood Elves for allying for the Horde.

And she called out the Night Elves for “hiding”.

It’s pretty clear that she was demeaning each of their races as a whole and not the three particular leaders who were standing there.

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There are no phenotype or genetic differences between any of them. They are all the same. One group likes the Mets, one the Rangers, one the Giants. They are all still New Yorkers regardless of this weird arbitrary difference you have made up in your head. If Lor’themar tomorrow decided that he wanted to rename the Sin’Dorei to Bipplebops Elfy Wackadoodles, create a new Tabard, and join the Peace through Robotics faction they wouldn’t be a new race. The sunreavers have a tabard and live in Dal, still Blood Elves. The scryers have a tabard and live in Shatt, still blood elves.

I would love it if Blizz decided in Midnights to drop Sin’dorei, rename them back to Quel’dorei and leave them on the Horde. Your little brain would EXPLODE into confetti.

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This is how I feel too. Like…There was no genetic change between High Elves and Blood Elves. They got green eyes for a bit. Woo. The only real difference is their political leaning. A sect of High Elves stayed with the humans, the remaining changed their name to Blood Elves to honor their fallen and went looking for ways to survive in a harsh world without their Sunwell.

My hunter Blood Elf is a High Elf. She lost her green eyes while needing to survive and they’ve gone back to blue. She’s still a Blood Elf to honor her people. That’s the lore for her in my head. Besides a name change and an eye colour change, she hasn’t changed.

It’s like saying people on the left of the political spectrum are totally different species from people on the right side of the political spectrum. We’re still all humans.

Void Elves have gotten pale skin and natural skin tones. They can rp as a High Elf if they wish. That’s more then what everyone thought they’d ever get. It’s funny, I don’t see Nightborne asking for everything Night Elves have. They are pretty equal in everything.

Like we’re getting more Dwarves but they are super different dwarves!

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As part of midnight, have the silver cov become void elves, and have the scattered high elves unite with the blood elves and rejoin their ranks.
Now all thalassian elves are either blood or void. No other categories exist in lore afterwards. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I have two void elves in my pile o’ alts, one of which is rped as blood elf - still technically a void elf but also refuses to have anything to do with Umbric ever again.

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It was just a little bit of almost murder while almost losing yourself to the grips of cosmic evils beyond the vale. Potato, tomato.

XD I do love that good job.

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I think what I’d like to see is the Silver Covenant and the Void Elves join into a singular group, alongside the Highvale. If the SC and Highvale become void elves proper I won’t mind but I think those three groups are representative of all the Alliance Thalassians and having them join up into a singular front is a good way forward for Blizzard narratively.

Though personally I hope they have those three groups retain their individual flavor.

But we’ll see. :smiley:

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What’s that void taint that has transformed you I sense?

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Its the seasoning.

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Uh no, they have Blood and High Elves who’ve become Void Elves.

Different race, like there’s a genetic make-up difference.

How would you tell a Blood Elf from a High Elf and vice-versa?

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How do you know NO Silver Covenant Thalassian rejoined the Kingdom of Quel’Thalas after the Sunwell was restored?

HOW do you know?

I had no idea that Canadians, Americans, and Mexicans were all three races.

Thank you for enlightening me.

They are different groups only two distinct races.

Blood Elves are a faction of High Elves who have a distinct tabard and name tag, etc.

See how word play is fun?

Kul’Tirans aren’t a different race.

They are both humans. The Kul’Tiran allied race just put together a new distinct model for humans.

It’s missing one though.

Like did you miss the “normal” human models in Kul’Tiras or something? Like even the most prominent member? Should I be taking you seriously?

See Blood Elves. Introduced in TBC.

I would send Blizzard 50$ if they do this. I know it’s not much but it’d be worth it.

Much like the various “pranks” done by Elisande’s spies to rev up tensions between the elven camps, it’s clear that her speech is meant to rile people up, not some sort of deep truth.

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I wonder if Ricros knows his character is a human? :smiley:

I thought those pranks were done by members of the opposite faction?

Anyways, yes her speech was meant to demean the 3 elven factions that showed up, I’m not denying that.

Who says I need to be a knife ear to join in on this fun discussion?