Easy, Jalen. Throwing out revolutionary ideas like that might get people to frown upon you. The idea of personal responsibility involving groups to join is a myth, ya know.
Sarcasm, for people who might not pick up on it.
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Couldnât do that anyways as it was changed to require mostly a guild group in order to use ML. Your argument is simply outdated.
This is where you mainly misunderstand the issue. Mythic raiders donât compete with each other, they are a team that share loot so that they can progress further together.
Can we not bring it back? ML has nothing to do with player interaction lol. Maybe player ninka looting.
This option was only useful to the people that wanted to get gear as quickly as possible in hardcore raids, but the new system still works fine.
Minus the whole upgrading system of not being allowed to trade just because itâs an ilevel increase.
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Trials are receiving loot the same way they were before, by being brought in on cleared content.
Generally, a core team will have already received the loot they need from the earlier bosses so trialâs are handed loot very easily.
Not many guilds are going to bring in new players to content that their team are currently practising on because they could further hold back progression with their inexperience. You could also argue that they wouldnât bring trials to progression fights to ensure that loot first goes to the players that they trust to be of value for the next boss.
The only benefit for personal loot over master loot is that players receive more scrap and less reward. It doesnât feel good on a personal level or as that as a group.
Can you explain how a tool used by a community of players who regularly play with each other, has nothing to do with player interaction?
Are you aware that master loot was already impossible in pugs, where ninja looting would have been a concern?
Guilds that didnât fairly distribute loot never lasted long, as it is a requirement for mythic raiding that your team works together and that they trust in each otherâs ability to log on each work and progress through the raid bit by bit.
There is a rather nice addon that can simulate Master Loot in a way, kinda.
My guild used it before everything went over to Personal Loot, and then it was updated with a few features to accommodate the changeover.
Point being, my team still has our same loot council peeps pouring over whatâs tradeable and who it should go to, while the rest of us are off clearing trash.
It does save us that same time, and maybe it can save you some time as well. 
https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/rclootcouncil
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Exactly, nothing has changed. Guildâs still decide on their own how they handle their loot.
The only difference between now and then is that loot that would have normally gone to someone who could use it, is instead now going to the scrapper.
Satisfying rewards for equal effort is a huge problem in BFA.
[1] Blizzard made this change in response to player complaints: lots of them. It wasnât a whim, or an emotional decision by one person.
[2] What group of players is hurt the most by ML? New players. Non-veterans are most likely to be discriminated against (not allowed to keep loot). And good players will quit a game if they are told âyou canât advance until youâve been here a yearâ.
[3] What group of players is most important to Blizzard or any other MMO company? New players. Without new players (that donât quit) the game dies.
Do the math.
There isnât a night were their atleast one complaint about not having Master Loot & i agree, removing Master Loot still is one of the worse thing about BFA & hopefully it comes back soon.
Read the thread.
Mythic guilds still use loot council making all 3 of your points invalid.
[2] is complete fabrication. New players (trials) are most likely to be brought in on cleared content, and contrary to your point, they are handed loot that nobody needs.
Itâs easy to understand why you would oppose master loot if this is actually what you believe. If your trial doesnât go well, you should try and join another guild.
Believing that a guild would jerk someone around for a year is insane.
I think blizurd should give guilds the choice again.
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Its not impossible in pugs as it still managed to happen when the majority of the guild was present in order to use master loot.
In the past ninja looting was a huge issue for players, and guilds with master loot still exploited other players who were not in guilds in order to obtain gear. Its happened to me a few times and its not a good feeling. Receiving a piece of gear has nothing to do with communication sorry. Just people typing out numbers and rolling the dice to see if they win it. Thatâs literally itâŠ
Now if you said something like personal loot being a bigger issue for drops, now that would make more sense as its been known to have less drops due to class specifics now.
Nope never it was a disease that has been cured
Except the new system has issues of its own. Oh this item has crap stats for you but itâs an Ilvl upgrade? Sorry. Canât trade that.
Oh that dagger is an Ilvl downgrade from your sword? Too bad, you canât trade it because you donât have a dagger.
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Hereâs what happens under the new system. An applicant can trial in your raid, die on the floor, get a kill and then leave with loot over a core raider. Itâs easier now because the applicant is now higher item level AND has the kill achievement.
How is this not ninjaing loot from a guild that puts several pulls into a boss only to have an applicant come in and RNG win loot over a main raider?
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Your profile says that you havenât done any mythic raids for the last three expansions.
Why are you against a system that you were never impacted with to begin with?
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Watcherâs latest little Q&A (see MMO-Champion) asks specifically that we not talk about rolling back to Master Looter because Personal Loot is here to stay and I must say I disagree. This is absolutely a discussion that needs to continue. My guild used master looter for years and it worked well for us. We could give gear to whomever needed it most to help our overall makeup. Loot drama was extremely rare for us and was less common than it is today.
Maybe my raid team was in the minority, but for us Personal Loot is a punishment for having such a tight-knit group. Legionâs system was perfectly fine for us.
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Personal loot should only be for dungeon finder and raid finder. Master loot, and need and greed, round ribbon, as well as need before greed, should be default if not using those two features. And maybe make personal an option as well if you âreallyâ feel that itâs better that way if not using those features too.
No, you canât go back to telling people who helped you in your raid they donât deserve a shot at loot. Had you let everyone have a fair shot at loot perhaps ML would still be an option for you.