Yep. BFA Was the Worst. I Hated BFA from the Pre-Patch.
WoD Had way too little content in it, but at least It didn’t have this pitiful excuse for a “war”
WoD Didn’t have many patches, But at least it didn’t waste 2 patches making us all pretend to hate eachother until we team up like we’re best freinds all along
I will always be 100% annoyed by the faction conflict, any time it comes up. It’s total nonsense.
nope, WOD was objectively worst. and personally I’d even say that cata was worse (the raids where okay, but the zones sucked hard and green jesus was just infuriating)
WoD was cut to pieces, so at least it has an excuse.
BFA has no such excuse, so I’d say BFA is indeed the worst. They looked at this and said “oh yeah, this is good stuff right here.”
Yeah came back again after a month and 2 weeks,so I’m leveling some alts and unsubbing again.I got a few new pieces but sadly the azurite traits either suck or I got a duplicate of something I can’t stack.
WoD was bad because it was empty, but honestly the content was good. I’d rather have an empty expansion that one where you have to do a lot of crap to catch up, and it all sucks.
It’s a bit of a toss-up between BfA and WoD.
Heck, Vanilla and TBC weren’t exactly “great” either.
WoD had the usual “time-travel shenanigans” going on, but apart from that the plot was at least interesting… at least during the leveling experience. BfA’s plot started out reasonably strong, a lot like WoD’s (apart from the time-travel caveat)… though I think the follow through, even just looking at the launch content, wasn’t as solid as WoD’s.
That being said, the plot of WoW’s expansions (nearly all of them) generally fall apart once you get into the patch content. Both WoD and BfA suffered from this, but I’d say BfA got hit especially hard.
The plots for both WoD and BfA at launch were okay.
WoD’s post-release plot was cut short and rushed.
BfA’s post-release plot was just plain AWFUL.
BFA lacks a pull imo.
Wrath: Death Knights and fighting the Lich King
Cataclysm: New race/class combos.
Pandaria: Monks
Warlords: Warcraft 2 Beyond the Dark Portal nostalgia
Legion: Demon Hunters and fighting the Burning Legion
I would have to say BfA is worse for me .
I actually enjoyed leveling and doing things in Wod and I especially liked the raids .
BfA I got through three 120s and once I started doing multiple alts I couldn’t put myself through going through BfA again with them.
In WoD I checked the forums for answers to questions I may have had.In Legion I started coming part of the time into the forums mainly about MM hunter issues while my hunter was a goblin but BfA I feel like I have spent more time in the forums because I honestly believe engaging with the people in here is more fun then anything Beta for Azeroth , Bobbing for Azerite and Boring for All had to offer.
I can’t help but think of a mustache twirling on a villain’s face every time I see the phrase. It takes minutes to the second to get the “meaning” to be less literal.
Having said that, can’t we stop with the mustache hate and look at her like a Montgomery Burns style “excellent” plotter?
To be fair it was only tangentially time travel. It wasn’t a past of our own timeline. It was sort of the present of another timeline parallel to ours. While, certainly, it’s “the past” by our standards it has zero impact on our timeline. It’s more another dimension that’s running behind ours, largely created as a one-off sort of place with no universe around it.
The only reason I point it out is because that creates key differences between most time travel stories. Chiefly it means nothing we did there affects our timeline, it would be impossible for it to do so. It also means there were minor historical differences that didn’t exist in our history. Such as Nerzhuls wife still being alive, the dragon maw clan being absent, and Orcs being enslaved by ogres.
It feels like time travel but AU Draenor was a very different place than the Draenor our Orcs came from.
I didn’t care for the story or the characters, aside from Bomsiwhoever. Then again I was never a big fan of trolls in this franchise, and prefer the Scourge over Forsaken. Not big on the Zandalar type mounts either.
I know what kind of time travel it was and I still hate it and I still think it’s a copout.
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I can agree with that. Battle for Azeroth is littered with more plot holes than any other expansion. I have a long list in notepad I use to discuss with friends about it.
The more you think about BFA, the less it makes sense, the more you simply can’t enjoy the story, because it just makes no sense at all.
BFA has one purpose and one purpose only. Get Sylvanas from point A to point B for Shadowlands. N’zoth and Azshara are irrelevant, everything after Orgrimmar is irrelevant.
A copout of what though? A copout means avoiding some responsibility or commitment.
It’s fine that you didn’t like it, don’t get me wrong. I just don’t understand why it’s a “copout”. It can just be something you didn’t like.
Yeah, I hate that even more.
Practically the lazy man’s time traveling considering you don’t have to write consequences for what happens.
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I was going to say it (well, something similar anyways) but Tentacl beat me to it:
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The worst plot hole in BFA is the Brandensbrook scenario.
The Horde assault Bradensbrook after establishing an outpost in Stormsong, burning it down and killing all the civilians they can, under the order of Sylvanas. In retaliation to this attack you drive The Horde back and assault their Stormsong outpost.
Horde players, never see this, this is never mentioned on Horde, as far as Horde players are concerned, this never happened. BUT. Rexxar responds to the retaliation as if it came out of nowhere. As if The Stormsong just decided “Yo, lets go kill them.”
And Horde players are given a narrative as if they never attacked Bradensbrook.
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Create a Forsaken and do the starting quests. Their inclusion to the Horde was for other reasons, just a means to an end. I think that the Forsaken were never truly a part of the Horde. In the end, they serve themselves.
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Except she never was an anti-hero. I forget if it was in in-game dialogue or some kind of supplemental material but back in Vanilla I remember reading about how she was secretly creating a plague that would kill ALL the living, including her Horde “allies” (this plague would eventually be used in the Wrathgate incident, though she would blame it on someone else). That isn’t something an anti-hero would be planning to do, Sylvanas has clearly been a villain since day 1 and it absolutely astonishs me that she has so many fanboys out there who refuse to see it.