Well same way TG looks dumb on anything but Tauren , same argument can be made about Lust being dumb in hunters pets and mages . Mages must is called time warp, yet Vokers use bronze dragon stuff if we wanna talk lore wise
Bloodlust was given to shamans in TBC, mages got it in Cata.
It was also originally a skill in WC2 for orc mages, only given to shaman in WC3
Because I can?
I never stated shockwave does damage. I commented on how it stuns all enemies and isn’t target capped.
It’s already been established your trolling or carried.
Either way you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.
It clearly says ALL targets.
Ones that are immune to stuns clearly wouldn’t apply.
However most trash packs with casters are stunned minus a select few.
I suggest doing some research.
Hopefully you play paladin better than you play warrior.
Troll warriors get one. Roll better races and factions.
It’s funny how out of touch the most vocal are.
I’m actually considering swapping to a warrior main for next tier and it’s hilarious these people who have been playing for years are so awful.
Warrior Utility, in no particular order without regard to its best use case or content; Remember, just because you don’t take the skill doesn’t mean it’s not there:
- AOE Stun
- AOE Slow
- AOE Fear/Cower in place
- Damage sponge button (Rally)
- Party buff
- Single Target Stun
- Immunity Break
- Healing Debuff
- Single Target slow
- Base-line Interrupt
Comparatively this is Hunter utility (since Hunter is explicitly mentioned a few times:
- Single Target Stun
- AOE Root
- AOE Slow
- Enemy Displace
- Soft Stun
- Single Target Slow
- Ancient Hysteria (Bloodlust)
- Talented Interrupt
- Purge/Enrage cleanser
- Targeted partial cleanse
I might be missing something in both lists, but looks pretty on-parity to me if you take an offensive purge and a party buff to be roughly equivalent.
No. I still disagree with Blizzard giving Bloodlust to hunters and mages and calling it different names. Only shams should have it.
Bro shockwave is not a good ability. Stop tryna argue that it’s the one all be all a ability . It’s not a good ability , it’s an okay ability . And its range also sucks anyways and it’s cone. If we wanna make it good good we need to take a talent for it lol . So just stop
Interesting! I didnt remember that but to be fair I played Alliance at the time so didnt know shaman for a while.
I knew trolls had something like it as racial but thought shaman always had it.
That sounds right, I think trolls get a haste buff and orcs just got a damage buff as their racials.
How is a group stun without target cap not good? It’s not the entire warrior kit, it’s not even the entire warrior kit for stunning targets, but it’s definitely not worthless. If it was, you’d have to acknowledge blinding light and basically every other crowd control ability as worthless.
I was like when mages 1st got lust. Thought blizzard lost their minds. Mages still consistently do the most bone headed random unnecessary lusts. But I’ve mostly made peace with it. The last thing the game needs is another class to use lust as a personal cd.
It’s bad because every other class has way more cc and it’s DR’ed very fast and even then it’s duration is horrible compared to like HOJ or cap totem , or Leg sweep etc
As a 2800 fury main no there is no utility its why we arent meta our dmg profile is exceptionally good. The best 2 target cleave in the game which isnt crazy since theres not alot of duo boss fights in mythic plus but when there is its very nice. Very good sustain single target, and above average aoe burst. Warriors dmg profile is top notch its just the lack of utility that keeps us out of the meta.
Giving them that utility also risks making them enhance levels of broke for raid like with rallying cry getting nerfed to 10% when it was 30% its a slippery slope.
To the point of the thread though a slap on lust ability wouldnt be a bad start and pretty easy to add and give some much needed utility.
Then drop it in favor of your AOE fear. You have options - Many many other classes do not.
Really depends on a ton of other factors, but in terms of my warrior compared to paladin I can pick up two stuns, an aoe stun, passive slows and a fear. Paladin I get 1 stun, 1 incap, passive slows and a silence.
Leg sweep and capacitor totem are both 3 seconds instead of 2, on a much higher cooldown. Shockwave comes down to a 25 second CD with talents with a 40 second baseline. Capacitor totem is 40 seconds with talents and a 1 minute baseline, leg sweet is 45 seconds with two talent points and a 1 minute by default.
Just because you aren’t good enough to coordinate it so it’s not on full DR is 100% a you issue.
Doesn’t make it bad. Just makes you bad at using it.
Make it self only and applies the debuff That would make my day.
You’re right, they do tend to pop it at random pointless places.
X to doubt.