That is/was the lore on undead coming in contact with the light, yeah. It temporarily reactivates nerve endings and lets the victim feel just how destroyed and dead every aspect of their body has become. In a sense, they come back to life for a microsecond just to feel themselves shut down and die all over again. It was also supposed to be the reason why forsaken paladins couldn’t work; they’d experience that agony forever due to their imbued light.
But then lightforged draenei DKs happened so who knows anymore.
An odd question to someone who was supporting Calia.
The thing with her is just that Blizzard didn’t showcase her character well at all. She’s had zero truly Horde-aligned appearances ingame, being shown with alliance characters and essentially neutral in BfA and wholly neutral in Shadowlands. Her character as far as most players would be concerned is a random alliance-aligned undead thrown into the Horde leadership. She needs scenes shown in game where her character is wholly and unequivocally working for the advancement of the Horde and the Forsaken.
Her moral compass doesn’t really play into it since she could’ve been 100% ‘Sylvanas-lite’ and people would still hate her as a random character thrown into leadership with no history behind her.
Calia first of all is a character who would need a lot of work to do next to nothing on the horde side (with the same success half the effort would do wonders to build up already existing forsaken characters). The only real theme that I can see there (excluding “you’re so dumb you need a saviour to show you the way” and variations) would be “post undeath is more important” vs “pre-undeath is the main thing that defines the person”.
In comparison there is a lot of plot lines she could move on the alliance side
Menethils (role and origin)
why Lordaeron is where it is, and no, after in BtS Sylvanas was getting rid of the books on the topic realistically this info should no longer exist among the horde but might be in the alliance
nobility of the alliance
finally explaining / exploring leadership roles / interactions among the human nations and further to all of the alliance
move the living-undead interaction from where it was (and she is like the only undead character that ever existed to be considered “fine” by the regular commoner’s standards)
explore the story of Mereldar and the Church in general
move on the Genn-Eyir story
and list goes for a while. What’s the “price” to do it? Well, she need to look in the direction of the alliance. Done. Well, not done, but it starts the thing. So, to me it’s “a lot of work that could be used for something the players would enjoy more, for minimal pay off”, or “moving further over a dozen dropped plot lines pretty much for free”.
I don’t like PLAYING Forsaken, but I love their story and their place in the overall story.
That said, I do have a couple Forsaken characters (a mage and a DK) but it’s my second mage so I’m burned out on the class and have no incentive to level her and the DK is just boring and could never get into the class.
If you aren’t willing to destroy the Alliance at any cost you shouldn’t be a Horde leader. Easy as that. Calia needs to die before she can deals damage to the Forsaken themes.
That´s nice and dandy Baal,l but I´m talking about “Vanilla” quest stuff that does portray the Forsaken as miserable sacks because they miss eating, hugging, etc.
As far as I remember, this actually never happened.
“Who says that the undead don’t know anything about cooking? Take my secret recipe for Turtle Bisque, for example. I’ve known folks that would come back from the dead just to enjoy a bowl! Heh, heh…”
But that would mean the Forsaken aren´t terribly distressed about eating? I mean, the text of this nice NPC implies they just go and eat his recipe with gusto?
How is this an argument in favor of “poor wittle Calia´s” misfortune? If anything it points to Forsaken having no issue then with enjoying simple stuff like eating or getting drunk.
This if anything does not help AT ALL the conception Calia “suffers” as much as the regular Forsaken when what Dayon used as example… ends up not being relevant for regular Forsaken either.
No don´t worry, as a matter of fact it was very helpful. These are the kind of valuable posts we need to ciment actual lore instead of running around in circles with mere speculation ^^.
Sorry if that wasn’t clear.