The land existing does not give Calia the right to lead it.
The people (Forsaken) are not merely former people from the human kingdom of Lorderon.
She is more Discipline bound undead. She was made with the combination of necromantic death magic and healing light magic.
This threadline is like the bag of cheetoes Blizzard put in the sock drawer. They don’t need it now…but when they have the munchies they will find it and totally use it!
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How did she abandon them? Would they have accepted her, given the undeath difference?
I really think they need to send this the Med’an route.
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When you disappear from your kingdom for a period of time, knowing that your people are there and suffering…that is abandoning.
And its irrelevant if they would have accepted her, given the undeath difference. Considering she returned while there was still this same undeath difference, it obviously didn’t matter.
Now throw in that the Forsaken named themselves “Forsaken” because they felt…well…forskane…abandoned, hunted down by the living. Maybe if Calia was actually around and preaching her “lets be friends” song and dance it could have gone a long way in human/forsaken relations. But she wasn’t. She showed up 15 or so years later trying to fix things that she allowed to fester.
This thread I swear. Look, forsaken players need to get over it. Sylvanas is not back to the Forsaken (faction or race). Let that twit get the loot pinata treatment she and her boy toy have coming.
A new leader (probably Calia and/or Dealin(sp)), is going to step forward to help guide the Forsaken and give them at least some sense of purpose. Deal with it.
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I don’t agree with your reasoning because of the story line behind the reunification of Forsaken and their families before BFA. She was there on purpose, she did care, she just didn’t know what to do, and now she can help and is stepping forward.
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She can help.
I just don’t want her as the leader of the faction.
Her right to the throne no longer exists because the kingdom of lordaeron no longer exists.
I want the leaders of every faction to be a member of that race. I feel that is fair. The Horde already has one extremely Alliance friendly leader (Baine). We don’t need a second. Especially when the Alliance doesn’t have a single one. The Alliance also doesn’t have any race not being lead by its race.
I want Horde leaders to be For the Horde. Calia is not For the Horde. She is “Lets be friends with the Alliance”. Which is fine for a neutral party wanting to reunite families. Not for a racial leader.
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I have a suspicion it’ll come into play later in Shadowlands. Somethings really not right about The Arbiter.
She has a black heart, and the jailer is missing his. And why is The Jailer, jailed? Smells like a usurper story to me.
My best bet never going to happen, I want a undead/worgen allied race but I bet they skipped doing it.
If she’s Alliance (she never was) than all the Forsaken were Alliance.
She is from a previous “Alliance”.
Not all Forsaken is from Lordaeron or even human. Being human is not a requirement to being Forsaken.
And I said “Alliance Leaning”. Being a human until very recently, its obvious she is going to lean towards her own race.
As a “light forged undead” she is still more human than Forsaken imo.
We’ll find out after we deal with the Sylvanas situation hopefully.
What is the deal having leaders that are willing to cooperate with the Alliance? How does that make the Horde less Horde?
We don’t have the damned resources to fight over pointless crap which was pointless from the get go. The war is over. Let it damn go.
I believe she will bring an allied race to the alliance.
The forsaken are Lordaeron. A kingdom is defined by its people. Also the forsaken WERE members of the Alliance. Before arthas did all that crap. You also don’t know how much Calia’s loyalties will change, just like other people who were turned undead.
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Correct that’s the lore
Nope.
Yes
Some were. Not all.
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Ah…actually all the original Forsaken were members of the Alliance.
It’s members ‘now’ though. Ehhh depends on where they were raised at. The implication (at least in game with the starting zone) is that the character is from Lordearon at least in life. So for the PC, yes they were Alliance.
For the NPCs… maybe, maybe not. Again it depends where they were revived from. WoW is a little ambigous here. Though I figure the majority of the forsaken are from Lordearon though.
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