Calia as Sylvanas 2.0

To me, this is the worst part. Not because of what she said (despite it being nonsense) but because it comes across as Blizzard responding directly to Calia critics, because they take it personal.

It makes all the Calia stuff seem like “Stupid, backwards old forsaken are amazed by the immigrant undead who challenges their xenophobia. Someone from the place where necromancy is invented settles the debate once and for all, Calia is totally the same.”

They really went out of their way to show the dissatisfied fans why we are wrong and they are right… then they wonder why they are hemorrhaging players.

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When I get home to my wacom, if I have time, Ill do it for free.

Im thinking “Woman in the House Across the Street from the Girl in the Window” amounts of wine.

Uh. Alright. I kinda took it as a stupid handwaive to explain away Naaru necromancy but sure. Let’s take it as a grievous insult toward all fans.

I miss the eratic aggrieved Nelf posters. They might remind ya’ll youre sounding just like them.

Literally one line of dialogue and a letter. This is proof positive that Blizzard actually intends to humilate the Forsaken player base, just because, and isn’t just their typical shoddy storytelling.

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To me, it never really had to be a story point, and if it was to be a story point, why settle it the moment you bring it up? Thats not exactly slow burn. Its like they could have told a more interesting story there. Let Calia struggle with that some more.

The fact that they brought it up and squashed it makes me think that there was a meta reason to bring it up at all.

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The difference here is that Forsaken have gotten no content that wasn’t Sylvanas related since the Year of Our Lord Two-Thousand Upon Four, but Night Elves drown in night elf content every expansion.

The Death Expansion did not have Forsaken. But it did have Night Elves. Danuser said it’d be a sin not to include Wrathion in Dragonflight, and that goes to show just how little he thinks of the Forsaken.

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I’ll be honest. All this talk about Calia and Derek being Alliance plants is kinda exciting. Turalyon, with his enhanced lifespan, concocting a long term plan to reclaim Lordaeron by first using the Gilnean’s claims over Silverpine, so he can eventually do a big push into Lordaeron proper? Intriguing stuff. Voss, a member of the king and queen slayer’s club, keeping her daggers close to a pasty Menethil? Riveting!

In the right hands that would make for some great storytelling. In the right hands. Let’s hope their focus right now stays on dragon riding,

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Uh. Yeah it did. They had the Forsaken work with the best character in SL to fix up the Blight. Merelith was so impressed with the Blight. I honestly might’ve blushed that was such a compliment coming from the Chief Plague Deviser sitting in the cosmic center of all things plague.

Did you play the content?

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https://i.imgur.com/RhN9tsf.jpg
This is like folks saying that playing Nightborne content was Horde because we got them at the end of the expansion.

And yeah. One small quest chain wherein Sindane flops off of the bulletin point that the entire cosmos of the Shadowlands upheld (the light is weak and less than nothing), compared to umpteen how many quests for nelves?

This was all the forsaken got. You didn’t have a part to play in Sylvanas’s dumbery that anyone else didn’t also get to play. No forsaken had a part to say about her crimes. Nor about zoovy being the source of all their woes. or the primus being their literal god.

yeah. one small quest chain after the expansion ended definitely equates to forsaken being present throughout the expansion. You earlier asked,

This right here is a pristine example.

Yeah. I’m glad the Forsaken weren’t caught up in that tangled mess of stupidity. I’ve said multiple times the Elune quest made me rescind any complaints I had.

Instead of craming the Forsaken into a story everybody hated that made everyone involved look stupid they had the Forsaken character come in at the very end. To high five the best character in the game before marching triumphantly into their reclaimed capitol.

10/10.

The quest existed to espouse Calia’s virtues to the player, not to stress how cool Belmont and the Forsaken are.

After all, he’s wrong about Calia as we’ll soon be seeing.

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What the hell are you even talking about you depressed baboon?

What values? Calia literally just asks the Death Fairy if shes a real Zombie and she goes “Yeah, sure, why not?”.

You are making ish up to cry about.

Only values Calia expressed was telling Lodebros to eat it and that has my fulsome endorsement.

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1: Calia deeply cares about the Forsaken who hate her.
2: She wants to be like them despite being made differently.
3: She doesn’t want the throne, she swears, as Voss has spent a book and umpteen quests winking at the player that she’s the only one who could sit it.
4: Wading into the toxic gas with the light to stress how she’s willing to suffer for the forsaken when she could’ve just put a gas mask on.

You’re gettin’ toxic, homie.

edit: oh i forgot the biggest part

“She wants peace with the Alliance and is willing to give up the Forsaken’s beachhead in Gilneas (which exists, apparently???) for “”“peace””". "

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Undead don’t breathe. Also it melts everything it touches. You fundamentally do not understand what you’re talking abouf.

I really have no words here. I’ve noted with particular interest every single piece of content you’re describing and you’re just coming to the most asinine and hostile conclusion imaginable.

For no reason other than apparently you’re anti happiness and believe everyone else should be as well.

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Got bad news for you, homie.

The Blight was literally devised to kill Arthas. A Death Knight. An undead. A creature who doesn’t have to breathe.

If the Blight was only harmful if inhaled the Forsaken could use it freely while wearing nothing but maybe goggles.

Now we’re just rewriting the setting to get mad about nothing.

Suffice to say if a questline about the Forsaken only upset those who don’t play, like or understand them then I’m going to chalk that up as a win.

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A Blight was devised to kill Arthas.
This Blight was devised to kill people who breathed it as we saw when we personally waded into it whilst wearing gas masks, choosing to save the Horde or just kill more Alliance at the player’s personal discretion.

Let me make this perfectly clear;

To anyone I’ve personally insulted on these forums, from the bottom of my heart, I just want you to know:

I’d pelt you with rotten vegetables if I could.

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I laughed, thanks homie.

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Ehh it was more like a plant parasite.

I’d argue when Malfurion essentially chuted Xavius’ entire soul into an arrow shaft and grew it into a tree, that was closer to necromancy. Granted he never necessarily DIED but it’s not like necromancy is really anymore more than binding a soul to a specific thing. And that lore is old as dirt, it’s unlikely anyone of the current writing team recalls it, but it was there… technically since October 2004, so it even pre-dates WoW lol.

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Yo fr tho this felt so random. I know BfA was inconsistent but they had multiple things throughout essentially saying Alliance had Gilneas, just a background thing in War tables or the Arathi Warfront. The Forsaken cant even procreate, Sylvannas herself said they’d lose their ability to hold even LORDAERON if that was lost. Then the Alliance got an orbital holy canon LMAO. At this point, Forsaken are walking on egg shells. The Horde, by the words of Vol’jin, wasnt even a superpower rivaling the Alliance after MoP. Again, older lore so the current team doesn’t really care, especially since it’s pro-Alliance.

But if things were consistent, Lordaeron would be getting tank rushed with new, dark iron tanks from Khaz Modan. Cause lets be real, extremely magic resilient super metal tanks with magical or design options that realistically could prolly negate blight? (Tho blizz also likes to forget Wrath showed Emerald Dream energies could make something hold blight, which is why they needed specifically the crystallized tears of green dragons to contain it, lmao)