I really hope they don’t retcon it.
It was a great moment for me on my Horde characters, especially after the Alliance-filled expansion of Legion was pretty much devoid of any really good moments for the Horde.
I’d hate to have our biggest fist pump moment since Theramore taken away.
Because it being removed or retconned was never real, the Warcraft fanbase just has the collective IQ of an avocado and loves to throw tantrums over their own fanfiction.
There are a few things to consider here. The new scenario is set to begin shortly before the War of Thorns, and takes place at the same time roughly speaking.
The War of Thorns was prepatch material, which as prepatch material does was phased out when the expansion it belonged to began. They opted to instead send you straight on past it, making it an event you just are not personally involved in as a new player (Horde or Alliance). Just because you were not there does not mean it didn’t occur, after all.
Now what I think they likely should do is perhaps weave in a reveal of the tragedy that had occured to your people while you were away, and then the night warrior story line before you head off to Kul Tiras if you are a Kaldorei.
While I get it, it’s kinda weird to remove mentions of it. Not all of my characters did War of Thorns but the story still talked about it.
Heck, it was even acknowledged by shaman didn’t do War of thorns when I went to Darkshore by the fact he did not know Delaryn Summermoon, where’s my toon who did do War of Thorns did know her.
“I heard” is not a valid source.
These things you’ve “heard” are untrue.
I doubt all references will be removed. If I’m being charitable, this might be related to the removal of the War of Thorns so with being able to jump right into BfA, the early pre-patch stuff is glossed over.
I’m not even sure how many quests reference is currently. It seems like you just get thrown in right at the Tides of War quest.
I think that’s because the intro is pre-BfA as far as the timeline.
War of Thorns got removed ages ago. It was a pre-expansion event, they usually don’t survive into the expansion proper.
From what I’ve heard (so second hand source, take with however amount of salt you want) is that Teldrassil references during KT and Zandalar are cut.
My point was that I don’t even know how much Teldrassil is reference in the expansion anyway. So when I see people saying ‘references were removed’ it might just be based on when it shoves you into the game.
Yeah, again, I have no idea how many quests even reference Teldrassil in those zones after the Tides of War quest. I’ve only seen Ian Bates vaguely claim later references are removed. I’d love to see actual datamining or people in alpha with side by side BfA quests that were changed.
/shrug.
Honestly, part of me thinks it’s just the intro quests that were cut, and people are overblowing that.
Battle for Lordaeron is part of the intro and that definitely mentions it, but I think it’s getting cut. Along with Stormwind Extraction and the Kul Tiras arrival/Tol Dagor break out for the Horde’s and Alliance’s respective intros.
Since those are the only times Teldrassil is mentioned, some people see it as erasing it. There’s definintely no retcon, I have no idea where people are getting that.
I think there should be a mention of it, though, despite cutting those events. War of Thorns did kick off the expansion, and I think in whatever shortened version of the Zand/KT intro, it along with Lordaeron should be mentioned as the catalysts for the current war.
Yeah, that’s what I meant.
Yeah, I agree. Battle for Azeroth pre-patch War of Thorns events seems pretty relevant to the story.
THEY DIDNT REMOVE MENTIONS OF IT
STOP SPREADING MISINFOMATION
if you are a new account you go to borlas and they cut all the quests that talk about the war, but if you talk to the npcs there, nothing is changed, all the alliance npcs that have lines about teld still have them, if you hit 60 and then make a alt you can do the siege of lorderan if you so please.
sorry but I am frustrated at the ignorance of this community and I know its not your fault but a bunch of donkeys who started to spread lies to fit there agendas so they can hate blizzard more or whatever
It’s you that keeps spreading lies and nonsense to defend everything Blizzard does.
heres one of the people who lied about teld mentions being cut now
Yea.
“But it’s all okay, those are good signs”
– Katiera
Seriously, do you have nothing better to do than trolling others with your 5.4k posts ?
war of thorns has been removed, and siege of lordaeron hasnt, only been removed from new players old players can still do them
check it again
wrong check it again
wrong once more.
you should really stop spouting your headcanon as fact you dont work for blizzard if you did you’d be fired by now.
So in other words it’s hidden from new players so that less people will know about it
I don’t need to check anything again, it was there and it is what the writers think.
Not wrong, if you like bad things happening to the Night Elves atleast step up and admit it instead of writing your nonsense everytime. It’s really getting tiring. There are a lot of people who openly talk about not liking Night Elves and hoping that more bad things happen to them, you are the only one that’s in denial and/or tries to hide it.
Guys, katiera, elesana,I have already corrected both of you several times, but when it is only about being right, the discussion is worth nothing. This Discussion is so annoying with your endless “see this, see that, see that, see that, see that, see that, read that, read that, read that, read that, read that, read that” discussion about many threads. Really, just agree to disagree and stay out of each other’s way.
If you think that 8.1 was an appropriate conclusion for Teldrassil you’re simply WRONG. There’s nothing to disagree or agree about it. Katiera’s comments are simply wrong, there’s not much more to it.
I respect other’s opinions but that is just pure nonsense. You just have to put the War of Thorns and Teldrassil into proportion to each other to see that it’s not an appropriate conclusion. They even said that they couldn’t let the Night Elves win in 8.1 due to the warfront so it should be out of question that 8.1 was not enough.
It just annoys me that this person keeps defending Blizzard in such obnoxious ways while also pretending to care about the race in other ways than hoping for more negative things happening to it.
Then this is your opinion that everyone has to respect and that’s it, we can’t change 8.1 anymore, that anyway.
And Katie just has her opinion, that’s why I say yes, agree to disagree and let this pointless discussion end, you also spare your nerves and should just leave the topic instead of getting endlessly upset.
This is kind of interesting. Blizzard did say they should’ve had a choice with Teldrassil in retrospect, maybe that’s why it’s like that.