Burning down that tree was evil?

Sylvanas could have at least made sure Beta Boomy Malfurion was in that fire. “Tyrande…I neeeed youuu”

Tyrande should hook up with Saurfang. Game of Thrones style.

Uhh, who outlawed it?

Thrall I believe.

Either that or Garrosh.

Thrall and Garrosh both forbade its use in certain campaigns. That did not stop the Forsaken from making and using it, of course.

LOL, WUT?

I don’t think so.

Rly? So Sylv blighting her own troops was ‘necessary’ as well?
:roll_eyes:

No, it was an outright manufacturing ban, as well as a ban on use.

Which yes, Sylvanas ignored.

makes me think back to a scene in braveheart when they use archers to rain down on troops fighting on the battle field, and one of the commanders asks the king “well won’t we hit our own troops?” and he responds “yes…but we’ll hit theirs as well”, and after thinning out everything, wipes out the battlefield with his reinforcements securing an ez win.

but you took what i said out of context anyway which ain’t cool. i was talking about how attacking civilians is a necessary part of winning a war, not attacking your own troops :roll_eyes: (which was never part of the discussion to begin with)

Are you certain there weren’t civilians in Undercity when she blighted it? It is a major undead hub…

If the majority of the race was in one location that went up in flames it’d be considered a genocide. It’s not like this was one of several cities that was destroyed. It was the majority of the race, and stated as thus. So yes, it’s genocide.

(Insert “Are we the baddies?” Horde edit here.)

(Except: “Are we the baddies… again?” )

Part of the UC event scenario was us using portals to evacuate everyone, and stopping Alliance rogues from ganking people.

Unlike the Alliance, Sylvanas had her mages actually get civilians to safety.

I know if we weren’t actually smart the ally would kill every civilian in sight

Yes, slicing out a portion of your population and singling them out with zero possible pardons or chance of return even though they deserved pay for rebuilding Stormwind is evil.

Where morality is concerned, Horde = Alliance. Forever.

Ummm, they’re called “The Alliance”. If they were the ally, they’d be like little thieving fox people or something. I don’t know about you, but if I have an foe I like to refer to them by the correct appellation.

Last BlizzCon, they were discussing it.

That isn’t comparable to genocide in anyway. lol
Alliance has its bad moments, but nothing compared to the Horde.

Destroying the Tree alone was not evil.
How it was approached, was very evil. Destroying the tree with superior force / arms without giving the citizens nor their military opportunity to evacuate, nor with warning, not including as well the destruction of, tampering of key / viable evacuations points would be added to and considered war crimes; do to premeditated intentions to harm / eliminate as many non combatants as possible.

If going by WW2 standards, US, Britain, and other allied forced (not all but many) gave warning. Dropping flyers, pamphlets as well propaganda. Leave or get bombed. Allowing the citizen to make their own choice to see if bluff or not. Axis powers did for few raids, and then changed tactics and went on full 12 hrs bomb raids without warning to not allow non combatants to leave, among the other obvious atrocities discovered.

Strategic logic; the Tree was a key target to stage a military attack against.
Warcraft Logic; commit as many atrocities as possible to make a bean bag body pillow look “strong and independent.”

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Yes, genocide is definitely not one step away from that. Alliance deflection logic.

ITT: It is okay to refuse to feed, pay and criminalize your own citizens and stonemasons, while actively putting their union leaders and members on bounty/hit lists for decades, long as you are not promoting genocide.

Evil is evil, there is no greater, nor lesser, it just has different faces and prefers different flavors.

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