BUFF Elune, please

It’s great to have a complex cosmology, but your players don’t need to know all the details unless they come into direct contact with a part of it.

I’m going to use D&D as an example because it just lends itself. Its “Great Wheel” cosmology is great. But it took Decades and a LOT of worldbuilding to fully flesh out. The result is a new player can start at level 1 and build their character up to epic level and have some incredible adventures in the Planes where this cosmology resides.

Blizzard hasn’t put in even a fraction of the time or effort that TSR/WotC has and just trying to rush out product in this vein is going to be a disaster.

I’m going to be honest with you? I’m a middling Tolkien fan at best? I read Hobbit and LotR, but not the Silmarillion. So I’m not really qualified to agree or disagree with you on this point.

I would say “Yes?” As long as there is a heroes journey. There isn’t right now. We’re stuck in a never-ending loop that starts at the beginning of each expansion with ‘The Road of Trials’ and ends with ‘Refusal of the Return’. Even when we return home, it’s just to be immediately called away again 5 seconds later.

I’m going to go back to D&D as an example for a moment. I had the privilege to grow up in the 70’s and 80’s when the Original, Basic, and 1st Edition AD&D rules were played. One problem common to games back then is what you see in World of Warcraft right now: Antagonist Attrition. People would kill every monster in the Monster Manual and Fiend Folio and go “What Now?” Their Dungeon Masters had no choice but to bring out “Deities and Demigods” and guess what happened next? Players started knocking off Gods and Mythic Monsters that they shouldn’t have encountered at all in a well run campaign.

The name for these campaigns was “Monty Haul” because so much was given away by the DM in the form of money and magic weapons, armor, and other items that everything became just too easy.

Sound like any game you know?

Yes. It does. Blizzard needs to learn from history. Because they’re in the process of repeating it.

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Elune isn’t a titan. She’s an Eternal One.

She’s neither. She’s not part of the Pantheon of Order, nor the Pantheon of Death. She’s just on par with them. Probably part of a Pantheon of Life or something.

Oh? I took it she was the same. I am wrong to think that.

If the Winter Queen calls her sister it implies the First Ones made her as they made the other Eternal Ones. This applies even if the Eternal Ones are death only entities and life entities are called Shrimblydimblies

She’s sister to the Winter Queen. The Pantheon of Death is said to be like the Titans, who are part of the Pantheon of Order.

It implies their sisters. But we know she’s not an Eternal One. And we don’t know that the First Ones made anyone. They may have just brought everything into working order that already existed.

Do we know this though before playing through Shadowlands?

The First Ones made everything from the fractals of existence that represent all of the major magical powers.

I can’t remember where it was but it’s implied Elune was with the other Eternal Ones at one point and she just left of her own accord to do her own thing in the realm of life. Like create the Naaru and meddle with mortal races for vanity projects. And mate with stag spirits.

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We only knew about the Titams prior to Shadowlands. Everything else we learned this expansion. Much to my displeasure.

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It’s another point of view of how creation began from the Broker who wrote it. Just like the Titans gave us their rendition, as well.

We have a fairy tale about Elune, not unlike the Tauren fairy tale. But nowhere does it say Elune is an Eternal One. The Eternal Ones are part of the Pantheon of Death.

They could’ve been born two sides of the same coin and separated into Death and Life. We don’t have those details.

I wish we didn’t even have what we do right now.

This is what I sort of thought that with Titans were something that created Dwarfs and that they followed them then that about Elune.

I think I neec to sit back and absorb.

Are they even literal sisters? Arent the family terms tossed around by night elves even if not blood relatives?

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I just think it’s hilarious that Elune offered essentially blood sacrifices to her sister.

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Maybe not. We don’t really know.

I think we really need a Emerald Dream expanion to help understand all of this.
/nm just read " [(Spoilers) Elune’s identity retconned and RUINED]"
now my head hurts.

Elune walks into the next pantheon meeting with Arnold Schwartzenegger body builder muscles: “Sup y’all?”

And the Winter Queen isn’t a titan, sooo… Neither is the Primus, Sire Denathrius or Kyrestia. They existed long before titans did, so the fact that they’re organized into a pantheon does not make them titans. That’s like saying because elves are humanoid/human-like, elves are humans.

I never said they were. Please read the quote that was posted.

And where did you get this information from?

Once again, I never said they were. Please read before responding.

My scouter is broken, but I’m pretty sure it’s under 9,000.

These gods all act more like Wizard of Oz.

Behind curtain number 16, Elune…a 45 y/o homemaker from utah

Behavior curtain number 17, N’zoth…a fisherman from Rhode Island.

Next up…Zovaal will be like those things from MIB inside the head of a robot

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I wish here to be omnipotent. Or at least, the most powerful being of Light, in complete contrast to whatever being birthed the Void.

Having her be a sister to the Winter Queen (who is incapable of maintaining even her own world), and Eonar whose power level is unknown and was defeated by Sargeras is… sad.

Elune doesn’t have to be like the Christian God in power-level… but I at least want her to be stronger than the Titans. :frowning:

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