It is at the very bottom, AGAIN! AFTER THE BUFF…
AND LET IT BE PLAYABLE ON MYTHIC SIRE! Fix the stupid pet path bug… there is only ONE bm hunter who cleared mythic Sire, by doing half DPS of MM hunter, do you see the problem Blizz? how long it has to take you to react or how rage you want us to be for you to do something???
They did on the current PTR then nerfed it because the bonus in the legendary was too strong.
I’ve had to switch my main to MM for Sire, and I hate it. Cast times, no pet…I might as well roll a mage if I want to stand still and not have a pet. At least I’d get prettier transmogs.
It does need better legendaries than flaming turd…err I mean tar trap.
Its wasn’t too bad in torghast when I tried it. If you got lucky with the radii increasing and damage power anima power pick ups that is.
They did this “SPITTING COBRA (Talent) damage is increased by 260%.”
and you know what, it still does less dmg the TToH, which means they buffed a talent that no body use and did not fix anything. HUH??? WHAT ARE THEY DOING???
That’s a weird way of framing it. Numbers change during testing. They set initial numbers, then toned them down for a couple of legendaries (dire beast from 35% to 30%, and the beastial wrath leggo from 40% to 30%). Both are still big buffs compared to live. It’s normal to adjust numbers during a PTR build.
That said, BM needs a buff. I think Kill Command should receive a 25% DPS increase.
I HATE IT TOO, you just CANT play BM on Mythic Sire, this is so stupid, you should be able to play any spec u want and be able to beat the highest raid content. BM should not be force to switch due to pet path, this is straight laziness and unprofessional of game designing .
I feel like if you get to be ranged and also have complete freedom to move with zero dps loss at any time you probably should be balanced towards the lowest damage.
I support buff to BM Hunter 
As well as the other Hunter specs! (Not like Marks needs it but I loooove Hunters so I vote buff Hunters)
inb4 But it’s the only ranged dps that doesn’t cast
They could fix it by having the pets blink to the adds on the sides, rather than stand there helplessly.
I also had trouble getting use out of my legendary. Might have been the angle I was at, but instead of landing where my targeting reticle was, the tar trap dropped into the gap. So, MM it is, sigh.
Alas, my friend, the poster above you got here first.
Then give it more GCD skills and make it hard, but better, I got no problem with that.
Lower base damage with higher uptime SHOULD average out with higher damage, lower uptime specs in “real world” (rather than target dummy) scenarios, though. Judging from logs - and the simple fact that pathing issues prevent BM from doing their job as ranged on Sire - BM uptime isn’t enough to balance out the lack of damage.
I’m not sure making BM hard is a positive change for the BM community.
If BM needs buffs give them buffs but it makes zero sense for a class with 100% mobility and range to be anywhere above any class that is forced in melee or forced to hard cast.
Hold on. I’ll straighten’em out
fixes pants
That’s not a fair exchange though. Being next to useless because your damage output is bad with pretty much no redeeming qualities is bad design for players who enjoy the spec.
I hold the belief that every class and spec should be able to provide something to each fight. Staying alive in Mythic as a boost to progression because of DDR mechanics wears off around the halfway point. If they’re going to designate what’s supposed to be bottom tier, they could at least compensate by having them provide some kind of team bonus.
Do we balance BM around one boss or do we fix the way pets work with mirrors?
They could stealth buff so that pets have increased attack range in Sire, enough to make them attack the adds on the unreachable platforms. That would bandaid fix the path problem.
Fixing the pets would fix a lot of the issue, since 1/2 of BM’s damage is pet based.
As someone who played BM last expansion, they were absolutely in need of a nerf; the spec required minimal skill, huge mobility, incredible utility with your pet along with good defensives and solid AOE.
And it’s basically one part of the sire denathrius fight where you suffer (killing the platform adds), which you can probably deal with by just disengaging across the gap to the platform and resummoning your pet.
So honestly I’m kind of meh on the idea that they’re in need of a buff when they have a ton of advantages over other hunters.