Boxxing is pay to win

[Rankin-shandris (Rankin)]

Would it still be disruptive if it was a group of players tagging the whole area?

[Orctang-area-52 (Orctang)]

Of course, I will use the accounts Blizzard forced me to make at the same time. It doesn’t affect anyone else in game at all. It doesn’t bring me any more power.

@Leafbweeze-wyrmrest-accord

No. That’s not what I’m saying. You’re putting words in my mouth.

I never stated anything for you. I stated your opinion is wrong.

[Hotramenshop-thrall]

@Maleficious-wyrmrest-accord

You leave Chaos Bolt and tab-target spamming with Absolute Corruption out of this, YOU MONSTER!

haha thats just funny ty.

[Velndris-wyrmrest-accord]

Multiboxers only become a problem when Blizzard pulls a stunt like Zin’athid.

Fortunately you can bully a multiboxer in warmode by shooting down their alts and killing them before the multiboxers can respond.

[Rankin-shandris (Rankin)]

@Hotramenshop-thrall

ah tradition. the perennial non argument. hello old friend.

I’m just staying on topic.

[Orctang-area-52 (Orctang)]

@Velndris-wyrmrest-accord

Multiboxers only become a problem when Blizzard pulls a stunt like Zin’athid.

It isn’t even the multiboxers that are the problem it is Blizzard that is the problem by trying to artificially limit resources.

[Glenervine-dalaran]

Making a team of horde BE paladins on Thrall in tribute to the OP!

[Bubbleagent-aerie-peak]

@Hotramenshop-thrall

and they easily could, the question is, do they.

How do you know they could? Also, questions end with question marks.

I could just throw out there that NASA has faster than light engine capabilities and they could easily send spaceships to other solar systems. The question is, do they?

[Källí-dalaran]

@Hotramenshop-thrall

false. you purchase subs with money in your blizzard balance, that you add to with a token, that was generated for $20.00. the coin has a value after purchase of $15 dollars.

So you ignore the fact that thousands of players buy Bnet balance tokens with gold earned in-game? Ok. Thanks for confirming you ignore evidence that debunks every single word you spout on these forums.

@Leafbweeze-wyrmrest-accord

This is an objective truth.

No, it isn’t.

@Leafbweeze-wyrmrest-accord

If one person only has one account, they can’t do anything about a person with 10 accounts, for example, hogging mobs and farming gold.

False, there is plenty that can be done. You just choose not to do it.

@Leafbweeze-wyrmrest-accord

If ONE PERSON is farming a spot with multiple accounts than only that player benefits solely because they paid more money than a single player with one account.

Again, false.

@Leafbweeze-wyrmrest-accord

There is a massive movement to ban multiboxing because it is obviously bad for the game.

It isn’t as it accounts for less than 1% of the population. Goblins that control your server AH are not the MB’s. Trust me, all the evidence is on the many gold forums throughout the web to prove you otherwise.

[anon83024763]

This thread is really making me want to buy 5 more accounts

[Orctang-area-52 (Orctang)]

Just do it!

[Källí-dalaran]

@anon83024763

This thread is really making me want to buy 5 more account

[Kanniable-farstriders]

Mabye one day blizzard will listen and rid this game of multiboxers… one can only hope.

That said, idk if it’s necessarily pay to win… I’ve heard and even seen a multiboxer admit they don’t pay a damn thing because they farm & yeah like Källí mentioned WoW token is a thing

[Silverleigh-drakthul]

Yes, technically multi-boxing qualifies under the definition of pay-to-win.

And it is cheating.

And it violates the spirit of the game.

But Blizzard allows it because they make money off of it for their shareholders (because we know it is not to pay their employees fair wages) so it doesn’t matter how many areas it can be demonstrated as unethical, it is going to continue.

Personally, I think Blizzard should put a cap on it of five as then they will still make money from it and players can still mulit-box to solo dungeons but nodes will not be exhausted and the economic advantage would be lowered and be a consistent amount.

But I am not an employee with an upset-child-story to get action so it is unlikely even that will happen.

[Orctang-area-52 (Orctang)]

@Silverleigh-drakthul

Yes, technically multi-boxing qualifies under the definition of pay-to-win.

Wrong

@Silverleigh-drakthul

And it is cheating.

Wrong

@Silverleigh-drakthul

And it violates the spirit of the game.

No, it doesn’t and thanks for your incorrect opinion.

[Groovdog-ghostlands (Groovdog)]

Wrong. That Blizzard balance has no value outside of their games. It like a coupon but those are at least worth 0.0001 cents. The fact that someone supposedly spends money to buy my token has ZERO impact on MY economics.

There is also no proof (other than Bliz saying so) that token sales are tied to purchases. As somebody with an MBA in finance and a dozen econ classes in undergrad and grad school I would bet a 6 month sub that they are at best VERY loosely linked and only then possibly at a regional level. Regardless my cashflow statementwould show no costs no matter how you rationalize things.

[Hotramenshop-thrall]

wait are you saying you were “forced” to buy more accounts, to do an activity that the in game system doesnt directly support?

@Rankin-shandris

I’m just staying on topic.

me too. we are engaged in a debate about multi boxxing, and tradition is not a valid argument.

@Bubbleagent-aerie-peak

How do you know they could? Also, questions end with question marks.

I could just throw out there that NASA has faster than light engine capabilities and they could easily send spaceships to other solar systems. The question is, do they?

they can scan for the software used to make the keystrokes work, like they currently scan for other software that is against the tos. the question is, do they?

thank you for being critical of my punctuation. in combination with your hyperbole it really highlights your lack of an argument.

[Leafbweeze-wyrmrest-accord]

Okay. Let’s just go by the definition of “pay to win” on wikipedia.

“In general a game is considered pay-to-win when a player can gain any gameplay advantage, which can not be obtained otherwise, over his or her non-paying peers”

I would argue that this is the widely accepted definition of pay to win. So anything that adheres to this definition, is objectively pay to win.

If you are gathering resources on multiple characters I am unable to do that without the help of other players. That is an advantage over me that you have that I can only combat by either getting another player to help me, because you literally have the power of two players under your control, and nobody else does. Or paying, because it is pay to win.

And I won’t get help from another player, because they want the resources for themselves. Multiboxers do not have to worry about that. They can just keep buying accounts and farming. That is why multiboxxing is pay to win.

[Källí-dalaran]

@Silverleigh-drakthul

But Blizzard allows it because they make money off of it for their shareholders

Another dreamer… lol. A multi-BILLION dollar company apparently allows a “cheat” that affects the entire population in order to cash in an extra $5,000 a year…

[Orctang-area-52 (Orctang)]

@Leafbweeze-wyrmrest-accord

Okay. Let’s just go by the definition of “pay to win” on wikipedia.

“In general a game is considered pay-to-win when a player can gain any gameplay advantage, which can not be obtained otherwise, over his or her non-paying peers”

Thanks for proving the game is not pay to win!