Nozz, I am loving this. . We are talking!!
The issue I have, mostly from all the hand wrigning I have seen on the forums of late, is that there are large groups who think Blizz is doing nothing. We know they are doing sweeping ban waves. Some get upset they dont hear more about it, but that would defeat the purpose.
So many want to blame it on the developers instead of taking personal responsability for being a part of the problem itself.
Can Blizz fo more? I don’t honestly know. I do not sit in their threat analyis meetings, nor do I have inside information. I do know that they do take it serious, because in the end it is problematic.
I appreaciate the discourse my friend.
You can be level 16ish and make hundreds of gold per hour. It’s called herbalism/fishing. You can get oily blackmouth, the fire fish, strangle kelp, swift thistle, briarthorne etc which are extremely expensive on all the servers I’ve been on in the barrens/Westfall. When you get all the strangle kelp go get briarthorn and mageroyal which gives you access to swift thistle. When you get sick of herbing you can switch to fishing. At ratchet you can get oily black mouth. As alliance you have access to theramore. Once you have the fp you don’t have to death walk. Both have easy access to booty bay. Which for horde is where you get the fire fish. As ally you can do it at theramore.
I love how the topic has math, with numbers, which you are saying is false.
But you have “actual math” on a forum somewhere, that you won’t even repost, that supposedly proves it wrong. But you won’t put it here.
Maybe the difference between “actual math” and “math” is that one already supports your position?
At any rate, there’s farms in TBC that can make much, much more than BRD pickpocketing does, also in instances. Just because madseason put it in his video doesn’t mean it’s what is going to happen. RMT will level to 70 for the same reason you claim they’ll take the boost- it’s far greater gold/hr.
The question is, does paying for a boost outweigh the cost in time of levelling? And the answer is no. You can either boost 1 toon or level 3. They have 60s already (and will have 70s in TBC) to powerlevel these toons. They do not sleep. They do not eat. They do not take breaks. It will take at most 3-4 days to get to 58.
With 2 extra 70s farming the much, much better gold/hr opportunities than BRD pickpocketing (lol), you will make much more gold spending the money on accounts instead of boosts.
That isn’t even factoring in that everyone who does use the boost (actual players) will be looking to powerlevel professions. Some are putting materials aside now… but not all of them. There’s a lot of gold to be made selling the stuff that will have a heavy increase in demand.
But you know, madseason said it will go down that way, so it MUST be true. People have never exaggerated to push youtube content before, you know.
But you can have as many battlenet accounts as you like and gold is transferable freely so it’s very easy to build a botting empire.
I’d like to point out that I’m not promoting this, and it’s very common knowledge if you’re into that kinda thing, this is only for educational use and to demonstrate how quick the bots can expand without much up front money or actual expense from the botters.
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Technically you could make infinity accounts if you have infinity $15, in classic. More expensive to bot in retail cuz you need expansions. If you had to pay a box cost for either classic or tbc classic, given the actual classic pop… you would have far fewer bots. But the “I paid good money for tbc 474774 years ago!!!1” people don’t realize the lack of box cost is what makes classic botting so lucrative. They don’t have to waste box cost on all their accounts.
Actually you don’t, level 50 characters in moderate BFA gear are more powerful than present max geared 60’s in retail (due to scaling) when soloing older raid content and dungeons.
This artificial power is also present for the botters who farm in groups.
Do you think you can access shadowlands zones without buying the expansion? even if they’re 50 they cannot max their gold without accessing rivendreth or maldraxxus. No one is making gold off of lower level stuff. Look at the things that make the most money. No one makes more than a couple s off of bfa or most other low level mats. Even with cloth most are s but shadowlands cloth is around 2g each.
Edit they kneecaped dungeon and raid farming with the squish. No money in it for anyone.
You don’t need to do much in the way of new content, but you can buy it if you’re money making design takes you there. It’s very cheap to buy the expansion when you VPN to Argentina. Subscription there costs 4 bucks, boosts for 8… upgrade the accounts to SL also cheap. Mechanar is still very popular for the bots in retail. (Tbc dungeon)
Theres no market for tbc mogs on even rp servers. On WrA netherweave is like 10s each. Why would they waste time there when you only get vendor cost as nothing else would make money? Even doing the wrath ICC heroics would be less of a waste of time as it can drop battered hilts. Do you think they just… bot to make 100g an hour?
Yep I NEVER sell old enchants or glyphs on my lv. 50 oh wait yes i do
I meant mats and you quoted me out of context like a to make that dig. I have fully leveled every single proffs in retail. You turn 10s of ah old mats into 50k mogs, yes. But bots don’t do that stuff. Like what the heck kind of… just.
Actually some old world mats can be more lucrative than current mats on a per item basis.
They just take longer to sell.
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Because bots aren’t humans, and some vendor trash is very good gold per hr.
Also what the guy above mentioned.
If you’re botting to sell in bulk you’re not farming rare tbc mats that are on timers. We’re specifically talking about bots.
Transmutes have never been considered “farming mats” in any universe or expansion of WoW.
I was referring specifically to AH sales. (Some old world herbs sell very well)
Have you ever talked to a bot? My in game BFF lives in China and boxes. She has multi region accounts and has talked to them. No bot is using any profession but gathering cuz its a waste of time vs just getting current content mats. Do you think they’re leveling lw to make tons of lw legendaries as well? No? But that’s 200k each!!!1
And?
There are some old world herb farming routes that also make decent gold per hour.
All my comment was referencing that old world mats can’t also be farmed for profit.
Again, I’m talking about bots. I literally do not care about what you’re talking about as it has nothing to do what talking about. Have a nice night.
I’ve seen bots farming old world nodes.
Rarer - but it happens.
Bots do farm old world content.
Here’s the issue with the method your proposing though.
It LINKS the accounts, so if the account 1, 3, and 5 get banned for botting all tied to the same Bnet account you don’t think it puts the other accounts tied to that Bnet under a bigger review?
It has a paper trail, doing the method your suggesting leaves a very obvious paper trail.