There are also other things to keep in mind. The bots are getting money from the players, money which blizzard has no way to get in classic. Except for level boosts that is. This means that the botters take money from the players and then gives some to blizzard for the boost. In this way they are roundabout giving money to blizzard to Bot and sell gold. I believe this will make it much less likely that blizzard will ban these boosted accounts. So if buying a boost gives you a LITTLE more safety from bans than a nonboosted account, these botters will have no choice but to keep buying boosts and giving money to blizzard. Considering how money hungry the company is, I could definitely see this being the case.
But they would make more money by banning the booster and forcing them to buy a new sub+boost in that case.
look I get you really want this to be true, but you need to try harder than this if people are going to take you seriously.
I didnt say the boosters will not be banned. I said they will be banned less often than non-boosters giving botters an incentive to buy boosts even if its a little less profitable than just leveling the character. Perhaps you should learn to read and think a little deeper before trying your little nonsense “you gotta try harder” comments.
I dont want anything to be true. I am just stating theories that make sense. It seems that it is you that has some investment on this. I have no plans on playing TBC, and the boost is just one of the many reasons, another being that I didnt particularly enjoy the original TBC and also have very little time to play a subpar version of it.
oh I did read.
You created a contrived scenario that does not exist, that we have 0 proof of existing, claimed I bet this will happen, and in that contrived scenario, you argue you are correct.
Did I miss anything?
Try harder.
Seriously, this topic has it right. You can just look at retail for what bots will do. It’s always going to be more accounts, it’s more money.
Boosts have been in retail for like 10 years now, we know what bots will do with a boost. It doesn’t save enough time in this case. 58 in TBC is pretty fast, a team of bots playing 24/7 will be done in less than a week.
Once they are all 70, they’ll make whatever you’d gain out of a boost in less than a day with the 2 extra bots.
Of course you’re right.
But the people who don’t want boosts, will make up any reason they can think of to discourage others from supporting boosts.
I’m glad blizzard isn’t taking the no changers seriously this time. They were the single worst thing to happen to classic wow. A vast majority of them hadn’t played the game in over a decade and had next to no concept of how things would actually play out.
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The hyperinflation on the servers is going to give depression-era Germany a run for their money…
Not to mention if they get flagged on one of the accounts, they will be out less money for the normal leveling account compared to the boosted.
OP, thank you for the simple economics to help explain the overblown fear and hype for boosts being all about BOTS. (tips hat)
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I also have no idea how economies work and love to act like I do.
It’s called distributed cloud infrastructure and is NOT an impedance to the process. Most of these bot’s are running off an AWS or Azure instance somewhere, not off some guy’s 486 computer on his desk.
That would mean shaming your fellow players for participating in making botting lucrative. Bots and RTM is a community driven issue and not a developer issue (apart from having as many ways to prevent it as possible. Which only last as long as it takes for them to circumvent the system)
We have bots, because the community tolerates and supports them. Period.
The botters don’t need to lvl to 70 or get geared to make money. At 58 you can raw farm BRD with pickpocketing. I believe some actual math (from reddit I think, quoted also in Madseason’s vid) says the boost makes a bot farm who boosted 86 times more money than one who lvled.
Bots pay like 4 bucks for an account and 8 bucks for a boost in retail.
Bots are a self sustaining mechanism because of retail. I can detail this if you need aid.
Bots will very likely buy boosts because it’s saves them massive amounts of time getting accounts to cap that can then produce actual money.
The return on investment is massive in favor of the boost. You’re not accounting for just how large scale the botting actually is.
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Its the opposite but the anti-boosters have long since resorted to making things up to fit their non existant nerrative.
Bots will likely not buy boosts. They could buy 3x the accounts by not boosting and already have an army of 24/7 bots that can level them in no time.
This, if true, needs to be addressed.
I do agree with you on part of this. I don’t know why you think its because of retail, but hey, wave your retail hate flag brother.
This is where OP’s message makes more sense on the investment. 3 accounts of gold making compared to 1. But we digress.
Again, we partially agree. I can understand how large scale the botting is and it saddens me. But again, it’s a player based supported problem.
The issue I have is that everyone with this mindset wants to make others suffer who have legitimate desires for a one time, per account, boost, simply because this is the flavor of the month boogeyman.
If you do not like the boost, fine. But can we please stop using arguments that can’t be proven until time passes to show true intent. That intent that there are several who believe if you do not enjoy or play the game the same way they do then they are wrong and should go back to (insert your chosen slur here)
I play retail…
Retail and classic accounts are linked.
You can farm or bot gold in retail.
You can then sell some of that gold on the AH in trade for the wow token legally.
Wow tokens can be converted to battlenet balance legally
Battlenet balance can be used to buy new accounts and boosts legally.
One retail bot can support numerous accounts. One retail bot account can quickly blossom into dozens of retail bot accounts.
Because it’s also possible to swap servers with cross play, bots spread their accounts over numerous servers and use cross play to hide out where it’s most dead.
This has nothing to do with my opinion on boosts, only that I know botters will utilize this feature to recover from bans and also to get started very rapidly on any server that’s deemed to be worth it.
Ok, so I have a better understanding of your reasoning.
One thing I am not sure about (oh, I knew all that BTW 
) But, I believe when you cash out your token the balance goes to your bnet account. . So you can purchase another account linked to your bnet, but you will be capped at 8. You can’t transfer it to another bnet. . I don’t think.
Hrm.
You have given me something to think about.
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After 8 accounts that might just become a “botting gold to sell” account, while they make a new battlenet to repeat, or trade the gold over to the new account.
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Right, but, if they get caught botting on any of those 8 accounts then its not just the wow account that is banned, its the bnet account.
Just trying to figure out the angle.
And brings me to my statment that botting in classic is a player-base made issue. We have GOT to stop supporting it.
That’s true, but maybe if all 8 accounts are doing the same botting, they’d all get banned anyways so it’s not an issue?
Either way yeah, Blizzard could do more, and we could just stop supporting it. Even 1 of those I’d be happy with.
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