Yes please blizzard. Prioritize content decades old and fix their issues. Forget about the current game and content issues. WE NEED TO FIX THE OLD MATS!!!
It’s the same price everywhere. Right out the gate with this thread, you don’t even know what you’re talking about.
I thought you quit back in DF, because all you did was complain about everything?
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and the mats are too expensive, there is a simple fix: go farm the mats.
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If something is dirt cheap and someone can afford to buy absolutely all of it they do. If people are still willing to pay 9g/unit and it stays at that price then that’s what the market value is.
No, it isn’t. People are not “willing” to pay that, they are forced. It’s wild people don’t understand how manipulated the AH is right now with bots/TWW.
The bots are all working for the same gold farmers, and can buy tens of thousands of items instantaneously when it hits the market and then relist. I listed a rare recipe and it was bought so fast it didn’t even show up in my order window. Didn’t even get a message. That’s not possible by a human.
They take a large risk trying to buy every piece of material on the market, if they’re successful in cornering (which they shouldn’t be able to do in a market where people are participating), then they are rewarded
But they are able to do it because people cannot participate freely due to not bots making it impossible for them to do what they want.
As an example. bots have now been bait posting where they list an item for 10-50% less than current price so that others will list their mats for that price so that they can then instantly buy them and relist for a higher price. That’s why you constantly see “item no longer available”.
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This.
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Weird. I havent been forced to buy anything on the AH
Thats people just being lazy and not paying attention and thats on them. Ive put maybe 15 hours into the game and already made about 600k off of prof mats because i list at a price i want, not the “automatic” price thats set
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These looks less of a botting thing. It’s region wide don’t forget… and also the warband bank shares gold so these gobbo’s can consolidate their gold and flip.
Start of an expansion so they are looking to flip the super cheap mats since they are banking that people are coming in and leveling other professions, especially for mogs since again [warband].
9 times outta 10, ya. I agree. There will be outliers but being someone who used to flip a lot… this is mostly the case.
225k probably isn’t a lot in this situation. 1000’s of crafters needing 100’s of leather. And that’s multiple servers, at least all the servers in one of three US data centers if not all of the NA servers.
Price manipulation is probably going on but if they raise the price too high less people buy and more people gather to sell into the bubble market. That can put manipulators in the position of having to buy a lot more than they can sell.
Something that would be nice is price and volume history and recommending a sell prices not on the lowest listed item but on rolling average of buy prices.
220g may be close to the going value. What appears to be going on is bait pricing, Automated listing items really low to bait people into selling low.
It’s definitely going on with the shard and dust from last expansion. You can vendor the shards for around 3g, and there’s a big block of them on the market just above that. And a handful of rapidly flipping listing in the 30 silver range.
nice - I have a bunch of runecloth I can post now - mostly only worth silver.
Runecloth was always more difficult to get than netherweave cloth.
Folks here talking like the AH isn’t a complete mess.
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All I want is the damn thing to not clear my quantity window after a failed purchase so I can try again immediately without reinputting the quantity.
Also I’m tired of 150g herbs. I’m also tired of hours of farming. HOURS just do I can blow myself up because the wild experiment is so volatile I can’t do anything else.
Not really. Hit up like, max level classic dungeons. It’s mageweave that sucked til recently… Ish.
I was watching a gold maker ‘manthieus’ or however you spell his name and he was live… talks about how there was a fix on the weekend… goes to craft then post bolts and he’s like ‘‘guess the ghost auctions are back’’ since it wasn’t showing his auctions again 
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I’m sorry, but old mats becoming expensive is a good thing. Gold is the most valuable currency in the game, and in fact every blizzard game. Mats SHOULD cost a lot. That’s better for average players who just want to save up for a Brutosaur, Warframe, or w/e. Wow should always favor the seller.
Mining and herbalism were terrible in DF, but thankfully, they are alright in TWW for now.
These aren’t bots. These are flippers. They deserve to make money. I tried to flip cloth before and failed. Glad it worked for them.
Some facts:
- The commodities auction house is region-wide. These are the stackable items that include reagents.
- The region-wide market is too big to manipulate. The prices being set there are the actual market prices.
- For items (equipment, pets, mounts, etc.), the AH is per realm or “connected realm” (a group of realms functioning as a single realm)
The price of reagents being set in the AH is the actual current market value. There is very little that sellers can do to directly affect it. They can push it up or down for a few minutes at most. Other a period of hours and days, the price will drift naturally.
Unless you’ve actually tried to corner a materials market before, you probably don’t understand how pointless it is to try to raise prices by buying and holding a crafting material in inventory. It’s only a question of how much gold you are going to lose.
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Weird, I was able to skip the quest that required me to donate 1000 runecloth bought from the AH before logging in.
Are you unable to fly somewhere runecloth drops and kill those mobs? You can go and farm it whenever you want. You have no barrier to entry to farm runecloth and sell it on the AH.
Weird, I was able to skip the quest that required me to donate 1000 runecloth bought from the AH before logging in.
This hilariously stupid comment was already ignored once in this thread. Maybe you didn’t see it, but it was even in the exact same sentence structure as yours. It is not as witty or as original as you think it is. You’re like the moron at the cash register when the cashier says her card machine isn’t working that says “GUESS THAT MEANS ITS FREE HUR DUR” like they haven’t heard that joke 4000000000 times a day.
Everybody with brain cells knows what I mean by forced. Go rub your two brain cells together elsewhere.
The stuff will only sell for what people are going to pay for it. You can always go farm your own mats vs relying on others to do the heavy lifting for you.
and I mean yeah blizzard needs to do something about the bots and software like TSM. But my first statement stands. If it doesn’t sell, the price will get lowered.
This had nothing to do with bots, and everything to do with Engineering.
Engineering in TWW is capable of pilfering/scrapping old expansion widgets/gizmos. This is why Runecloth and Thorium jumped in price so quickly. Copper and Tin experienced a similar spike. A large number of people realized that this was going to be a thing within the first week and started buying up the crap to use or resell to take advantage of the incoming price increases due to the mats becoming relevant again.
Netherweave isn’t used for the same thing Runecloth+Thorium as a combination is.
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