I don't know - back in Legion at Antorus I fell off the platform during the Aggramar fight and died, so I didn't have the opportunity to loot the Sigils of the Dark Titan from Aggramar's corpse. Got summoned to where Argus is, and after he's down, you'd be taken to the Vindicaar and that was it.
I wrote a ticket, and their response was : Oh man, I'm sorry to hear about not being able to loot the Sigil of the Dark Titan! That definitely slows down the progress for the Heart of Argus but sadlythere is not a way for us to see if the boss wasn't looted, or you fell off a platform, or had disconnected, etc. Only thing I can suggest is watch the surroundings on next kill and hopefully you get some good loot along w/ this quest item!
The part where they said there isn't a way for them to see if the boss wasn't looted or not sounded like bs to me, but yeah anyway, it seems like it's not guaranteed that everything gets mailed to you afterwards if you didn't loot the boss, especially when it comes to items that are not gear pieces.
Hopefully they will give you your Sanguicell but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
Will Blizzard reset my save to her? I don't want loot just to be able to kill her again and get loot. I already used my coins and I only need weapons/boots from heroic.
working for me if you had loot it would have been mailed
No, not necessarily. If you were still physically present at the time the boss was defeated, loot would be generated and presumably mailed to you, provided it was on an encounter on which it was possible to do that -- which MOTHER isn't.
If you're not physically present in the instance at the time of victory though, no loot is generated.
I sort of visualize this in a weird way, but picture it like a loot-spawning wave that spreads out from the boss the moment it's defeated. If you're present in the instance when the wave happens, loot is generated for you. If you're not.. nothing. It can't generate loot for a character that isn't physically present.
That isn't how this game works. For example the M+ chest loot is determined at the beginning of the run. If you kick someone or they leave they still get loot mailed to them and (very annoyingly) also get a M+ chest at the end of the week. They don't have to be in the instance when the chest is looted and 'generates' the loot.
In raids if you get kicked from a boss and get kicked out you still get loot mailed t you even if you couldn't loot. This happens if you DC, get kicked, leave, etc.
For example the M+ chest loot is determined at the beginning of the run.
Doubtful. Loot eligibility for the dungeon is likely determined at the beginning of the run, but that's only possible because party members cannot be replaced in the context of a Mythic+.
For example the M+ chest loot is determined at the beginning of the run.
Doubtful. Loot eligibility for the dungeon is likely determined at the beginning of the run, but that's only possible because party members cannot be replaced in the context of a Mythic+.
Raids don't have that inflexibility.
No, I am correct. Your theory of being present when loot is picked up from a boss or chest is wrong and that isn't how the game works. I also know, for a fact, that you get loot mailed to you if you get kicked from a raid mid pull if you were going to get a piece of loot. It's also not a bug to have that boss locked out for you if they killed it while you tagged it. It's not a bug because you also get the loot.
Anyway, you're wrong so please stop spreading misinformation.
teleports you to the graveyard after 1 min, was kicked in 1st room mother
Yeah, I'm sorry to have bad news for you dude, but you're screwed for MOTHER this week on Heroic. You can bonus roll on her if you kill her on that difficulty since you didn't use one, but you're loot-locked to her for normal loot despite not being in the raid.
That group screwed you, and you should avoid grouping with them in the future.
Seems like a flaw in their system. If a RL wants to kick me that's fine but it shouldn't save me to that boss still and lock me out of a chance to loot it that week. Dumb.
Honestly, this is how raid bosses have worked since the game's inception -- which is why it works the way it does at this point in time. Imagine if raid saves cleared on kick -- groups could do Mythic, kick all but a few players at 1%, and then functionally dupe loot since Mythic's loot availability is fixed and not based on group size.
That would be a huge problem.
System isn't perfect for sure, but it definitely works the way it does for a good reason.
Easy solution: make it so leaders can't kick people while a boss encounter is in progress. Force them to wait until after the wipe or kill before kicking someone, that way the player still has a chance at loot from the pull they are saved to.
I also know, for a fact, that you get loot mailed to you if you get kicked from a raid mid pull if you were going to get a piece of loot.
And I can tell you, for a fact, that this isn't true for every boss in the game.
If you'd like to test my supposed theory, feel free to go to Throne of the Four Winds and kill Anshal or Rohash last on the Conclave encounter. Let me know what loot you receive.
Do you get Sanguicell placed in your bags or do you actually have to loot it?
You have to loot it
Then that's probably why it didn't get mailed. The gear would be mailed cause it's PL. But I've noticed that (unlike Legion), BFA stuff (other than gear off bosses) does not get mailed to me when I don't loot something. In Legion, I got a LOT of grey crap mailed to me. Everything I didn't loot got mailed to me. In BFA, nothin.
teleports you to the graveyard after 1 min, was kicked in 1st room mother
How do you even die in the first room? So you're complaining that you died at the beginning of the fight, to brain dead mechanics, and didn't get your carry loot that you didn't contribute to?
So you're complaining that you died at the beginning of the fight, to brain dead mechanics, and didn't get your carry loot that you didn't contribute to?
Pretty sure he's complaining that he's loot locked to an encounter he didn't get to participate in or benefit from.
I don't think he'd have a problem at all just being kicked as long as he hadn't lost the looting opportunity in the process.
Also -- Killing Spree has gotten me killed on MOTHER before. Its teleportations can and often do put you exactly where you don't want to be, completely outside of your control.
It's probably due to her loot being in a chest - we don't kill her... and missed loot is attached to corpse despawns. You -might- be able to loot the chest if you down her again before Tuesday.
So you're complaining that you died at the beginning of the fight, to brain dead mechanics, and didn't get your carry loot that you didn't contribute to?
Pretty sure he's complaining that he's loot locked to an encounter he didn't get to participate in or benefit from.
I don't think he'd have a problem at all just being kicked as long as he hadn't lost the looting opportunity in the process.
Also -- Killing Spree has gotten me killed on MOTHER before. Its teleportations can and often do put you exactly where you don't want to be, completely outside of your control.
Working as intended if you ask me. If you can't do simple things like don't stand in front of the boss, get out of giant swirls on the ground and run into the wind and your group goes on to defeat the boss without your contribution. Well, you don't deserve loot.
They should make that a thing whether you get kicked or not, you die within x time of the start of a boss fight no loot for you. You want free carry loot? They got that for you, it's called LFR.
Okay, don't use killing spree? Boss mods tells you when strike is about to happen? Time it better? Save it for the adds anyways?
Working as intended if you ask me. If you can do simple things like don't stand in front of the boss, get out of giant swirls on the ground and run into the wind and your group goes on to defeat the boss without your contribution. Well, you don't deserve loot.
I'm glad Blizzard doesn't agree with you. I don't think anyone should allow themselves to be carried without contributing, but I don't think one should lose all opportunity for benefit due to a fatal mistake that happened at the beginning of an encounter instead of the middle of it.