Sylvanas dialogue in the Halls of Reflection:
“We are safe, for now. His strength has increased ten-fold since our last battle! It will take a mighty army to destroy the Lich King, an army greater than even the Horde can rouse.”
Bolvar had only baseline Lich King powers. Arthas had Frostmourne which consumed souls as a power multiplier. It’s likely that Bolvar was actually LESS than one-tenth of Arthas’ power, but at best he’s still just a fraction.
Physically. Will people get this straight? It didn’t amplify his Lich King powers. It increased his physical strength.
Bolvar and Arthas both had Ner’zhul’s Lich King powers and knowledge on how to use them. That’s the whole point of the Helm of Domination that trapped Ner’zhul.
Doesn’t your statement then mean physically Bolvar was weaker than Arthas?
Yeah, they can’t lift the same amount of weights.
Good thing the fight with Sylvanas was almost entirely magical.
Why do you think Arthas was so concerned with feeding Frostmourne souls? That’s what amplified his power.
Ner’zhul’s soul wasn’t only in the helm. A portion of it was Frostmourne as well. Bolvar was incomplete compared to peak Arthas.
I actually think Bolvar in his fiery power is just 1% of what the Lich King was at his peak. Then when he changes to frosty he becomes about 3 to 4% of that.
Wasn’t that also the point of his eyes going from red to blue?
Yep. Channeling Lich King’s power (Ner’zhul’s).
So in your opinion would Arthas have done better than Bolvar in the fight, and if so how?
Yes, but an almost non-existent Ner’zhul by this point. He was weakening and nearly spent, iirc. Not to mention, Bolvar underwent some serious torture and was weakened from that, as well.
A rune weapon is the focus of a death knights power, frost mourne was so powerful it killed a raid -not- through physical means. When the sword was broken Arthas lost, no amount of helm of dominance could of saved him.
You’re forgetting the fact that Sylvanas has been in a pact with the maw since Cataclysm, and she has been sending tons of Anima to the Maw, which makes the Maw stronger, which makes her stronger.
She is probably 100 times stronger now than she was in WotLK.
Plus, Bolvar wasn’t in the best physical shape after all he had been through before becoming the Lich King.
Arthas would have still wrecked her now, I mean the first time he killed her, he didn’t even need to get off his horse,lol.
Was that because of Frostmourne and not being crispy or simply time being the Lich King?
Where were her Maw powers when she was fighting Malfurion at the start of BFA?
Like, I get that the devs might have suggested that Sylvanas was working with some entity in the maw (the jailor) since after WotLK, but I still think they thought of it during BFA and pulled the “since Cata” part out of their butt.
Yes and people are getting worked up over the physical fight we just saw.
Well she hadn’t feed it a delicious NE BBQ yet at that point.
Maybe she was just hiding them.
Or maybe since she has Death Powers, Malfurion’s Life Powers overpowered her like Sargeras overpowered all the Titans with his Chaos Powers.
Or maybe it was burning the tree that gave her enough dead people to get OP.
I don’t know.
Fact is: Sylvanas is supercharged now. That’s a fact.
Even if that was true, that still doesn’t make it logical Sylvanas steamrolled over him. That’s like saying a slightly smaller tsunami won’t do that much damage because it wasn’t as big as another tsunami. It’s still significant. The logic in that fight is still 0