I don’t know if it will be khadgar, but they are setting her up to shoot someone. She keeps having visions and her first thought is to fire at them. It’s a recipe for disaster. ( I will be surprised if she doesn’t accidently try and kill someone)
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Ive been thinking that whats the one thing to make her snap and go full void she goes to kill Xal and hits Khadgar who wasnt killed just kidnapped for this exact snapping moment unless she can steal Alleiras kid its a perfect plan
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He used to be.
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If you think about it we power boosted her while killing all the other powerful weapons. She was just charging from the super tian juice she got she didnt go inert as we thought
I think you need a reality check, those two were losses that were heavily complained. Voljin was overshadowed by Varian’s death too.
Now to say this:
Just show that you’re way too alliance and narrow minded to understand. The Horde has been always on the receiving end when it comes to get REKT with the story. Both with in-game story telling and with retcons.
It feels like this vicious circle that I have to explain every alliance player like you everything that has happened storywise to the horde that I completely lose the interest in repeating everything all over again.
Varian was the very first alliance leader that you really lost.
Nobody gave a damn about Archbishop Benedictus or Staghelm. Those no one cared about. For real.
The Horde has lost more than you ever did. And you ever will be able to understand.
Just get lost. You’re a waste of time.
If that’s the qualifier we’re going with then we lost him all the way back in Warcraft 2, because ever since he reappeared in TBC he’s been neutral
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She still wasn’t that strong when she was with meeeee! D:
When Dadgar goes out I’d have thought it would be more…exciting than that.
So for sure he’s not gone, maybe he’ll get twisted by the Void and we’ll have to fight him as a Raid boss (to save him) or some such nonsense.
She also didnt have deathwings second little dinner plate artifact equiped that absorbs all kinds of energy with Galakronds energy inside it. So she didn’t have her BIS thats why you didnt get your deserved powerboost
What about Tyrion getting wrecked in the intro cinematic of Legion? I felt he got done dirty there the way they had him go out. You find him and Guldan, then Tirion gets vaporized and that’s that.
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Khadgar.
He is hugely powerful even without the the Guardian powers and Bolvar was never shown as hugely powerful without the Lich King powers. In fact, I don’t remember Bolvar being show as hugely powerful with the Lich King powers.
I have found him annoying in the later expansions because he is constantly bugging my characters to run errands for/with him but he is the one of the last of the old guard with significant presence so I am going to be peeved if he is actually dead.
In all fairness, the majority of decent characters were male.
In fact, the majority of major characters were male, period.
The only three major female characters I can think of are Jaina, Sylvanas and Tyrande… and Sylvanas, arguably the best female character in the whole series, was trashed hard!
Whereas I can come up with ten major male characters off the top of my head: Varion, Anduin, Genn, Magni, Mulfiron, Illidan, Thrall, Garrosh, Vor’jin and Baine. With Khadgar or Tirion, that is twelve.
It is a combination of a new guard coming in, wanting to put their stamp on the game, and the company as a whole trying to show they are longer those neanderthals that had several lawsuits against them at the same time for really bad behavior, both professionally and personally.
While I do think any story needs to change it up along the way to keep it fresh, I think they have done a pisspoor job of it in this case.
Wholesale sweep of old beloved male characters to bring in unknown, uncared about female characters was a huge story [redacted]up. Doing it slowly with meaningful story beats behind each one and the replacements of both sexes that are built up over time would have made much better storytelling.
For instance, Varian’s sacrifice and Anduin’s succession was perfect, storywise; he went out as a hero and Anduin, his own living son and a person who has been a significant story presence for years, succeeded him.
Whereas Genn succeeded to Mina? Willa?, whatever, to his daughter was out of the blue and they really needed to use different wording to show it was only out of the blue for the audience (for instance if Genn has said ‘the only reason I wanted Gilnaes was for you, i may not have alwaye shown it but it was always about you and now it is yours’.)
I was bored when I first heard about it.
Removing the Alliance/Horde ‘cold war’ faction divide just removed too much tension and conflict possibilities for me to enjoy another round of the same story seen in too many expansions: there’s a big bad, go to new place, kill big bad, the end, especially when it is going to drawn out over three expansions.
Spoilers on Dataming with Khadgar:
He is datamined to be in a wheelchair but alive
With that being said, and the fact that Alleria didn’t realize that Xal’atath was Archmage Drenden until AFTER we teleported. I don’t think Khadgar was done dirty, he was caught offguard and tried to clean up the mess but underestimated Xal’ataths Power (Shadow Priests woulda said bad idea dude… or let me solo her)
So ya definitely Bolvar.
Khadgar need to go. He really was only medievhs whipping boy
No, he only had half.
I don’t know what mace he carries but it ain’t no Frostmourne.
Anyways, I think Dadghar was done more dirty. Bolvar got to fight Sylvanas and did a pretty good job. Poor Dadghar didn’t even get that.
We are getting NEW male characters because existing ones are being killed off.
Varion - Dead
Garrosh - Dead
Vol’jin - Dead
Tirion Fording - Dead
Nazgrim - Dead
Saurfang - Dead
Arthas - Dead
etc.
As far as females go, Alexstrasza and Alleria have both been central in the story. Plenty of other female characters have had same or similar levels of development that weren’t boss level like Lilian Voss.
They have always taken their time to develop characters, well, they used to. That’s why Arthas and Wrath were so fun. The characters had meaning. Then they kill major characters for… plot development? How many expansions do we need to start by killing off more male leads? It’s lazy and boring.
Yea, I’m honestly confused. If this is our introduction to the void lords, seems kinda weak.
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It’s seems like a radical feminist’s revenge fantasy the way they get trashed at the snap of a woman’s fingers. I still stay Odyn was the most insulting.
Although you could make a case for the way they did Arthas dirty. That was the utlimate Sylvanas revenge fanatsy.
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Tyrion got vaporized?
It’s like arguing about comic book character fights. They are only ever as strong or as weak as the story demands.
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I agree.
King Variarn was our anchor, our backbone and our swordarm.
The Horde would have to lose Thrall for it to come close to comparable.
However, if you add up their losses and compare, it would definitely tip in the Horde’s favor. i mean, they had two leaders betray them, two major characters killed by foul means and now don’t even trust each other enough to invest in a single leader!
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Medivh is a greedy boy?