BM Hunters Explained

10/26/2018 05:08 PMPosted by Bearheart
10/26/2018 01:47 PMPosted by Rethumtv
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Have you tried playing BM and actually doing the rotation for optimal dps? It’s actually the hardest rotation to pull off successfully out of all 3 hunter specs, and arguably harder then most other dps classes right now, besides maybe awkward WW and it’s crappy current build.

Things to track:

Barbed Shot Stacks (Frenzy Stacks)
-Must attempt to maintain x3 stacks for as long as possible, only recasting barbed shot with 1 second or less left to maximize the buff uptime. Blizzard UI does not even display this buff, you have to track it with addons or a stopwatch in your head lol. Barbed shot also reduces cooldown on Bestial Wrath, so you actually have to pay attention to when it’s back up.

-Use Beastial Wrath, Aspect of the Wild, A Murder of Crows, Kill Command on cooldown.

-If talented Chimera shot before Kill Command on 2 targets, assuming it won’t overcap energy. Otherwise use after KC on 1 target and energy not full.

-Steady Shot when everything else is down to spend and avoid focus cap. This ability also reduces the cooldown on Kill Command, which you don’t want to accidentally clip and commit a GCD or resources to.

-All of this must be remain flowing while keeping 3 stacks up except the cooldowns on stuff changes, you manage procs (if your lucky) and try to do a rotation that keeps changing based on what your pressing.

Go make a hunter, get to a dummy and try to do decent dps. I’m sure you’ll find it much daunting then LOL DH press Eye Beam, Blade Dance, Chaos Strike repeat.


Stack buff to 3 and use CD's on CD isn't hard btw. It is harder to play than the other 2 specs but for real, please don't overstate its complexity. The whole class is for nitwits


It's infinitely harder than playing every melee spec besides feral.
10/26/2018 01:11 PMPosted by Ambergrís
10/26/2018 01:06 PMPosted by Redxyz
SAYS THE DISC PRIEST HAHAHA


Yes it's a post about skill cap. BM has the lowest skill cap. That's just a fact. Just speaking to all of the BMs begging to be rebuffed to the earliest BFA stages. What are you even suggesting?


You thinking there is such thing as "Skill cap" to any individual class in wow in 2018 tells me that your IQ is about a few points shy of mentally handicapped. The game is being pruned to console levels. Please stop acting like any class requires any kind of skill to play.
Any idiot can look at arms fury or DH rotation or frost dk or MM Hunter or arcane and see BM is way way more involved than those. But you'd rather just vomit out the same BM meme from 2015.

That said this game in 2018 requires minimal skill to perform well in regards to any spec.
BM isn’t hard to play, plz don’t die on that hill
Would love to see these retards try to play BM and constantly get their pet cc’d or killed while missing every trap.

You’ll be begging for your old class with targetable cc and non-pet dependent damage back. Guaranteed.
Reported for troll posting.

Bm actually has some of the most keybinds in the game, go try 1 and see for yourelf.
BM probably like 3rd hardest spec to play atm
10/26/2018 09:55 PMPosted by Prigil
Would love to see these retards try to play BM and constantly get their pet cc’d or killed while missing every trap.

You’ll be begging for your old class with targetable cc and non-pet dependent damage back. Guaranteed.

I literally said some one was going to say this dumb !@#$. Using traps isn't hard, controlling your pet isn't hard.
10/27/2018 01:49 AMPosted by Estrath
10/26/2018 09:55 PMPosted by Prigil
Would love to see these retards try to play BM and constantly get their pet cc’d or killed while missing every trap.

You’ll be begging for your old class with targetable cc and non-pet dependent damage back. Guaranteed.

I literally said some one was going to say this dumb !@#$. Using traps isn't hard, controlling your pet isn't hard.


You predicted someone was going to state the obvious truth? Incredible.
10/26/2018 09:51 PMPosted by Splittinwigs
BM isn’t hard to play, plz don’t die on that hill


Nobody said it is. But neither is any other spec.
#revertthenerfs
10/27/2018 05:45 AMPosted by Prigil
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I literally said some one was going to say this dumb !@#$. Using traps isn't hard, controlling your pet isn't hard.


You predicted someone was going to state the obvious truth? Incredible.

No I predicted that someone is going to say like it gives thier class merit for skill. It's the typical hunter answer, If I never played as one I wouldn't imagine how easy it is to use ice trap and pets.
Also don't give me the "ice traps are hard or my pet dies excuse" making it seem hunter is complex, that is literally a non-issue if you're good at your class
Why do people keep making threads like this?
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You predicted someone was going to state the obvious truth? Incredible.

No I predicted that someone is going to say like it gives thier class merit for skill. It's the typical hunter answer, If I never played as one I wouldn't imagine how easy it is to use ice trap and pets.


Post on your hunter in a 2k xmog bud. Let’s see it and your sweet rating. LOL.

The truth is you couldn’t land a trap on an afk 1500 disc priest if your life depended on it.
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No I predicted that someone is going to say like it gives thier class merit for skill. It's the typical hunter answer, If I never played as one I wouldn't imagine how easy it is to use ice trap and pets.


Post on your hunter in a 2k xmog bud. Let’s see it and your sweet rating. LOL.

The truth is you couldn’t land a trap on an afk 1500 disc priest if your life depended on it.

Woah hitting a ice trap and clicking where it lands is so hard, much intense only 2k+ player can do that. Lol !@#$ off

Also angelic feather is soooo hard to use because I have to drop it on people makes my class soooooooo complex and difficult, omg skill.

Anyways I'm done talking to you, obviously you have no point to make behind that level 1 alt.
10/27/2018 07:23 AMPosted by Estrath
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Post on your hunter in a 2k xmog bud. Let’s see it and your sweet rating. LOL.

The truth is you couldn’t land a trap on an afk 1500 disc priest if your life depended on it.

Woah hitting a ice trap and clicking where it lands is so hard, much intense only 2k+ player can do that. Lol !@#$ off


Which proves you have no idea what you are talking about and have zero experience trying to land Ice Trap as a BM Hunter.

When you need to push in and make sure you aren't lining your heals setting your self up to get killed. When you need to deal with counter cc as you try to get in position to land it. When you need to be aware of enemy mobility cd's to know if they are going to dash away making you miss. When you need to outplay a priest trying to death a trap or a shaman trying to ground it. When you need to deal with teammates and pets trying to eat traps. When you need to actually aim the cc you are trying land as opposed to just targeting the player.

It's not rocket science, but it is easily the most difficult CC in the game to use correctly with the most counterplay and the highest potential for user error. I guarantee you've never played a BM hunter in arena.
If it's a caster they would stay still for a second and you throw the trap.
When someone is on you you throw it on yourself.
Please tell me what's so hard?
Usually a priest isn't going to counter if you don't miss?
How does this make hunters hard and complex, seriously if you want complexity go play a druid.

Of of the 3 hunter specs BM is the most mobile of the 2 ranged specs, please tell why it was a good idea to have the majority of the damage come from the pet as auto attacks?
10/27/2018 07:56 AMPosted by Estrath
If it's a caster they would stay still for a second and you throw the trap.
Imagine not knowing about travel time, character speed bosts, and mobility cd's.

10/27/2018 07:56 AMPosted by Estrath

When someone is on you you throw it on yourself.
imagine wasting trap on a melee dps.
10/27/2018 07:56 AMPosted by Estrath
Please tell me what's so hard?
I just did.
10/27/2018 07:56 AMPosted by Estrath
Usually a priest isn't going to counter if you don't miss?
Re-worded this says "A Priest will not counter a trap if you land the trap". What are you even trying to say? Do you not know a priest can "death" (actually spell name has been changed but can't remember atm) a trap to make themselves take damage which will break it?

10/27/2018 07:56 AMPosted by Estrath
please tell why it was a good idea to have the majority of the damage come from the pet as auto attacks?
It wasn't and I never said it was. Currently that is not the case as the majority of BM hunter damage comes directly from the hunter, or from abilities the hunter must press themselves which require LoS.
You're making it sound a lot harder than it is, the travel time isn't really bad especially if you're closer. I'm not saying it is the best cc in the world but again it doesn't make hunters complex.

Also the skill you're thinking of is premonition and unless the priest can look into the future they wont be able to react to an freezing trap. Premonition usually works with classes like mages that need to cast thier cc.
Using premonition on a hunter is like using it on a rogue's blind.

Yes currently not before, pre nerf. That's why I'm okay with them getting buffs to KC and cobra but your BM buddies here want all thier pet auto attack damage back.
Revertthenerfs