Blood Elf Druid Discussion

I would say it’s actually the Cenarian way. After all, it was Cenarius who first taught Malfurion, and Malfurion passed those teachings on to Hamuul Runetotem.

Also, lore wise, it was the Tauren (or rather the Yaungol, their ancestors) who were first taught Druidism by Cenarius. This was confirmed in the first volume of the Chronicle. So, Yaungol first, then the Night Elves (although early Night Elves who encountered Cenarius and were taught by him became Forest Guardians), then Malfurion who taught Hamuul.

Didn’t Chronicle also say that the early yaungol forgot over time? I think it doesn’t really matter if they started learning first if it never actually stuck up until the present, since one way or another they’re learning from night elf-themed characters anyway.

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They did, which is why, by the events of Mists of Pandaria, we don’t see any Yaungol Druids. But in the Stormrage novel, Hamuul is celebrated as the first tauren druid in over 20 generations, which implies that there were Tauren druids taught before him.

Either way though, I’d say the teachings aren’t Night Elven, but Cenarian, after all it was Cenarius who taught the Night Elves. They didn’t just come up with Druidism on their own. No Cenarius? No Druids.

Despite such, I still hope they manage to put some race-identity into the new classes upon each race.

Instead of just some one liner generic quote & not really touched upon much again – Like the new Night Elf Warlock @ the Darkmoon Island. :face_exhaling:

I like class identity in WoW. I like race identity in WoW – And I like class identity that weaves in with their race identity too. So it’d be nice to see them touch base on that more — And hopefully more than just one questline (Do actual world building and even further establishment overtime).


DISCLOSURE: Edited your quote because I don’t have permission to post gifs & links.


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All you are spouting is useless to the discussion. You’re basing whether or not a race could do something on player population and arbitrary class allotment.

Blizzard is already removing class restrictions anyways so the second part has no basis and the first part has no relevance to this discussion.

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Because that is how druidism works. You embody and take on the form of your patron spirits. That is why back in legion for the time the Idol of Aviana was lost Cenarion druids canonically lost their flight forms. And why there were no troll druids until Gonk smooth talked them into allowing trolls to have more than one patron loa.

Trolls use the loa as their forms, while cenarion druids use patron wild gods, hence why there is druids of the claw, druids of the talon etc

For animal forms It seems you need a wild god patron, though Ursoc is dead as hell and Druids can still become bears.

Kultiran druids also dont have patrons? So maybe they dont need patron wild gods either. But at the same time the legion managed to remove the bird form from druids in legion by taking an idol or wild god?

But, if the Warlock questline is any hint of how the new races will get it (did monk get any of those or they just unlocked for everybody one day? It was just like 3 races missing, but still, another way monks get forgotten), It will be like, some druid just want to get new students (said druid more likely a night elf), and you will see guys for every race having a box of dialogue explaining why they want to become druids.

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Ursol still exists, kul’tiran druid forms aren’t actual living animals but rather Wood effigies of them

The Thornspeakers do have patrons, Athair and Athainne, as well as patrons/allies like Greenstalker.

And adding Druids adds to that identity?
Nothings being taken away, its going to be the same culture but more.
(Im trying to give a longer reply but theirs really nothing more I can say lol)

I just would like them to sink some effort in setting it up. Some classes like warlock putting it down to power hungry individuals is perfectly fine as it does not make it publicly acceptable to wield chaos magic.

Druidism needs more setup than that, though.

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Restricting classes doesn’t add to the identity, Blizzard should go with the D&D apprach and let anyone be anything and let them head canon how they became druid or at least add a little background story to justify the change.

The current problem with playable races is that besides the Allied races, well some of them anyway, there are not a lot of current stories making a strong identity for these races, that’s why faction leaders become the avatar of an entire playable race and when their story goes downhill the entire playable race suffers. The majority of none faction leader stories we have date back to 2012, and even that is largely linked to cataclysm’s event or current conflicts that have long been resolved.

So the issue is not classes becoming available, like as much as I think how goofy it is a blood elf or an Orc can become a druid, exceptions exist. The issue is I have no idea what Blood Elves or Orcs stand for or how their society functions. And the inconsistent writing decisions that Blizzard has done do not help matters.
This includes individual quests, books, short stories or the dreaded main narrative arc that punishes anything it touches.

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Well, loa exist for their two most thematically appropriate druid forms (lynx and dragonhawk), and incidentally those specific loa were enslaved by the Amani twice in recent memory. If ever a pair of fickle gods had motivation to shift their favor…

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Wouldn’t be too hard to have them use the Cenarion Circle ones or to find some in their land.

I’m not against the idea that they’d use the Amani loa for funsies.

Though I want them to have contact with a hawkstrider one for their travel form.

It’s a matter of how much Blizz bothers to make it work in lore.

Like I’ve suggested you could do Forsaken Druids by making them RAS Apothecaries called Mycolomancers who wield fungal and plague magic. Apothecaries already shapeshift by quaffing potions in true Resident Evil boss fashion.

And with the Sin’Dorei I’d just say have them be transfiguration wizards. Khadgar has a bird form.

With a modicum of effort they could have their cake and eat it too. Granting every class race pairing but making it’s fantasy tie in with the overarching racial one.

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I think Mechagnome druids could have saved that sad excuse for an allied race. Forget the spiritual side of druidism. Mechagnome druids are simply Transformers : Rise of the Beast style “druids” who mechanically shapeshift in animal forms. Laser Robot Chickens and all that.

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I feel like druids more than any other class would go so much better on other races with class skins to suit their cultural framework. Imagining an undead shooting elune moon lasers is beyond mentally incongruent to me.

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Yeah Balance admitably is where things get complicated but I dont think Drust or Zandalari Druids are using Elunic magic. Think being the operative word there.

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Woman - I will tell you - boy bye!

Idk I thought it was funny some one said “bye” to you mid discussion, like you said you were going somewhere. Is that how the “tweens” talk these days?

Maybe they meant they put you on ignore because they don’t like to read disagreement? Idk, it was chuckle worthy.

Hey, you are a dwarf of an opinion. An opinion about class restrictions that Blizzard has thus far stated they will ignore. All the more reason to just laugh at your posts, and welcome them for the silliness.

Some say good bye, and I say hello.

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