Legion content should have the legacy damage buff like every single expansion prior to it. Not hard to figure out what I want.
Guarantee you can’t solo mythic Antorus.
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Sounds to me that: They scaled down all stats and a consequence of that is it takes longer to out gear old content. not exactly “broke.”
The things people earn with the effort it took to get when it was current really shouldnt be facerolled later anyways because it devalues that work/achievement. Constantly devaluing players progress wouldnt be very good for subs either i would think.
Sounds like its already “fixed” to me imo.
Nobody can, Eonar encounter even in BfA was impossible solo on 80% if not most classes due to mechanics.
You’re right, I can’t because this character of mine does not have access to it. However, I could do it on my DK all before and if I played them in Shadowlands would have loved to prove you wrong.
Frankly, it wasn’t addressed because its just not a big enough concern.
This is a situation that solves itself over time, and is purely cosmetic in reward nature.
The more important thing to realize is that just because it wasn’t talked about in the few total hours of talking doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be adjusted.
Have you tried this stuff on the 9.0.5 PTR?
I assume no change has been made there, but ya never know.
Then try again in 9.1.
The problem is, I think most players just care a lot more about current content being better, so that is what they are going to focus on announcing stuff for.
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Cause they spent their budget on giving themselves pay a raise and material items nothing left for the game. They invested in themselves not this game. Spending money now makes the bottomline bad and share holders won’t be happy.
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Thought you didn’t have a problem in old content.
Which is the problem. Content two expansions old SHOULD be soloable by ANY max level character. What’s so difficult to understand about this?
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Oh no, some rando on forums said something mean, lets not fix content thats been broke. Great strategy Charles Schwab
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I don’t believe you at all.
Darn…what a convenient excuse.
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Can’t solo Mythic Nighthold (can’t solo gul’dan mythic) yet I was able to solo EVERY Mythic raid in WoD during BfA (once I hit max level and not even geared up yet in BfA).
Can’t down the first mythic boss in Tomb which means I won’t be able to do anything mythic in Argast either.
So that is 3 raids in now called a “legacy” expansion that I can’t solo whereas like I said, I could do ALL the mythic raids in WoD once I hit max level in BfA.
I am ilvl 210 also.
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my level 50 nazjatar follower is doing three times more dps than my level 60, i could simply tag a gold portrait rare with ice lance and let my follower solo the whole fight
the scaling is broken on so many levels
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It is actually a big concern. And yeah we are talking quite awhile to likely now need to wait until next expansion to finally solo all the mythic raids in Legion which is ridiculous.
Fair point but they are not doing anything about this as Ion said there was nothing broken.
And? Fixing Legion raids to be tuned using legacy buffs for us isn’t that complex to add since they have done it every expansion till now.
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Was really hoping to be able to solo all of mythic Legion raids (a few fights would have had to be skippable or changed to do them solo) and then be able to do some BFA raids as well (even if not all difficulties).
In the end, you turn off a lot of people by not allowing it. And it’s not like the drops are 100% guaranteed anyway. Think about how long a mount has taken to drop in a raid for you or a certain piece of equipment for transmog…
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Well, there seems to be some pervasive misunderstandings happening with this topic quite repeatedly.
There are a variety of issues present, or so it seems.
The biggest one is that there are fights that mechanically, will never be soloable.
Those should change, and often times they DO change without any announcement at all.
Be sure to check out the PTR to know for sure.
The other issues seem to exist only because the player attempting the content is not as powerful as they wish they were.
This is what Ion said was working as intended, and from my limited testing, I would agree.
The raids are perfectly doable, and even if they are somewhat difficult to solo, that does not necessitate an issue.
You will continue to get more gear and power as time goes on, and they will continue to get easier when you do.
There is also no reason at all you can’t simply do these with 2 players instead of one.
I know most players prefer to do stuff like this alone for their own reasons, but that is not immediately a concern for the development.
There are WAY bigger issues happening at max level that will be addressed first and foremost.
Hope that is clear.
For the record, people have tried soloing legion raids on the 9.0.5 PTR?
What were your results?
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It’s legacy content. You should be able to steamroll through it. BFA is not legacy so not steamrolling through makes sense.
Legion should not require a group to complete in any Mythic raid setting. Blizzard is being inconsistent and Legion needs to be fixed.
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I mean, I didn’t expect them to say anything about it. I’d be more surprised if they did.
I seem to remember Ion or one of the other Devs saying before the squish, anything you could solo before it, you could solo after it. The fact that we are now being told working as intended and to wait for gear to sort it out is a bad idea and will cost them at some point.
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How does fixing something they broke “devalue” the progress I previously made? I raided legion, completed all of the content and would like to go back for transmog. I cannot because when they did the squish, content I could solo before could no longer be solo’d. On top of that, they decided not to go back and fix the content so that encounters that needed multiple people to do (because of specific mechanics).
This game has a very long history of people going back in and farming old raids so they can complete their transmog sets, collect mounts, farm gold, pets, or just enjoy themselves doing it. It is sad that one designer has chosen to ruin that legacy because he doesn’t want to spend resources on something they broke.
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I am not seeing any fight that is having issues that aren’t soloable like for example the first fight in Mythic HFC in WoD which was unsoloable but the rest of the raid was. So yes those types of fights need fixing. However, I should not be getting wrecked in the 3rd raid of Legion 2 expansions ago on the first boss. Like my example, once I hit max level in BfA I could solo ALL the mythic WoD raids.
Of course you would agree. But Ion and you are completely wrong. They said long ago every 2 expansion and beyond from the current expansion is considered Legacy and we would have Legacy buffs. Hence why there has never been an issue before now. Also, the fact we are level 60 going up against lower levels in Legion and now probably have to wait until next expansion now or towards the end of this one to just do old irrelevant content is unacceptable.
False yet again. They are no doable at all. What part of not being able to even get past the first boss of Mythic Tomb do you not get? Yeah normal mode is but mythic is not and willing to bet heroic Tomb and Argus might not be either but again, I could solo ALL mythic WoD raids (except the first boss in HFC as I needed 1 other to just pass it until they fixed it) just hitting max level in BfA.
You are missing the whole point of people wanting to solo these likely for mounts/mogs etc. Running it with more people defeats the whole purpose.
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A subscription to this game should allow someone to play any and all aspects of it, which ever they choose. That should include any legacy content.
The fact that they can not seem to be able to fix multiple issues without throwing “lower priority” ones on the back burner seems to be a Blizzard/staffing problem IMO.
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