I can understand that feel buddy, I really do. Its so happened that myself was just returning to the game and unable to stay motivated due to the shltty story. I got particularly mad at this new lore because I just finished the Blood elf transmog quest, and it was touching for me too see the story in novel that I read actually made into the game. Then guess what, shlt happen and I was like whaaaaaat? What am I read a out of season April fool’s joke right now?
The events were generally good, the scenes and characterizations less so. That wasn’t really what he was interested in, though.
You have to remember that this was put together from letters he was sending his son during the war, so have to give him some slack.
I was under the impression he had a contract for LOTR after the success of The Hobbit; and had such a lack of a plan from the outset that we got Tom Bombadil.
I mean, it’s still a landmark work, but people shouldn’t invoke his name as an avatar of good storymaking, and certainly not good characterization. Worldbuilding, yes.
Agreed, right now I don’t even know what they are trying to build for…or should I say I don’t really care anymore, cause everything they built, they will eventually broke them in order to serve the new idea of whatever shltty thing they will come out of. Sometime, I feel like they don’t even know what they are doing, like they have no idea what they want to write, they don’t have a clear direction of where they want the lore go. They are lost, at least I’m lost when reading their story.
I’m qualifying this by stating I don’t like the direction the story has gone either, but I also think its important to recognize that WoW has such a large playerbase with diverse perspectives that its impossible to please anyone. No matter what they write, there will always be a large chunk of the players who cry about it because their faction or their class or their character or whatever else is getting shafted in their eyes. So they’re basically given a mandate to try to move the story along while simultaneously not ruffle any feathers, which is impossible. They basically have their hands tied.
Absolutely.
You can’t one-up the Legion. The entire IP was built on the premise that the Legion was the biggest bad out there.
I like Supernatural a lot, but I can recognize its flaws. I see in WoW what I saw in Supernatural - they just defeated the Devil, and now they need something bigger, so they have to invent the Super Devil, and eventually you have to face God himself. Yes, in Supernatural the current boss of the season that the heroes are trying to defeat is the creator of the universe. God just nuked at least 8 separate universes and now he’s coming for the universe of the main heroes… the scale is just absurd. That’s where WoW is now. The Jailer pulled a cosmic army out of his butt and he’s threatening to destroy all life in all realities because they have to go bigger and badder.
BFA was supposed to be a soft reset. It was supposed to tone things down. You don’t defeat the Devil and then try to top him. But somehow they just couldn’t help themselves and had to jam a world-ending threat in BFA that didn’t belong and now they feel obligated to keep going bigger.
My hope is, vain as it is, is that 10.0 is a soft reset and they actually soft reset properly. They go way, way, WAYYYY down in scale. Let’s get some political shenanigans. Let’s get some Ogre clans causing trouble. Let’s some dragons causing a ruckus. After two low-power expansions, then you can SLOWLY ramp things up. Slowly reintroduce Sargeras as a character. Slowly introduce the concept of Elune as a being. Let’s ramp this up slow so that when we get there it feels earned.
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Sometimes, a story should just end.
Sure. Supernatural was supposed to end at season five after they defeated the Devil and ended the Apocalypse. But the show made money, like WoW makes money. When the money is still flowing, it is hard to just say “we’re done”. Given that it is still going, then you have to make certain choices.
I like certain things about specific later seasons of Supernatural. I like the British Men of Letters story arc. To me it is proof that you can take an IP that has gone past its natural point of life, and able to do something with the IP that is interesting, and “reset” it such that you can climax it again later and have that feel more natural. WoW can still have something like that happen… the writers just need to be willing to do it.
I can see what you trying to say. But I must say I disagree with it. You do have some points but the main issues here, I think, are that they are using the lore to serve the new expansion, and they don’t really care if the lore makes any logical sense in order to achieve that purpose. Let’s say if Lorthemar got his new love interest or he doesn’t love Liadrin anymore or for whatever the reason, they decided to broke up. If they could’ve made this all making sense, they explain to us why or how this happened, or show us the process. I would’ve been convinced. But right now, they just came out this idea from nowhere, and try to force us to accept all their new settings, they didn’t even try to explain anything. Like the fk? Just no long ago, in their novel, they said that Lorthemar didn’t want any relationship due to how he wanted to rebuild Silvermoon, but he loves Liadrin, and 2 patches later, he got a new love and forgot about Liadrin and Silvermoon, does that make any sense to you? I mean, seriously, Blizzard?lol
I don’t mind being unkind to people who deserve it.
Who is the arbiter that determines whether or not they deserve it?
Sticks obviously.
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Yeah; seasons 6 and 7 of Buffy were in the same vein.
The thing with a game like wow, though is they could dial down the power creep and let certain storylines end. Velen should be a hermit. Khadgar, too - it wouldn’t take much for some of the random deus ex khadgar saves they do to weaken them and take them off the board. Instead, they stick around and keep getting more and more powerful to keep them ahead of us.
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Diablo series was OK I suppose, but its more of a pure justice vs evil thing, it lacks some deep twisting thoughts. But I agree that they were OK. However, Diablo wasn’t really created by Blizzard tho.lol It used to be a total different company.
This is correct.
Don’t @ me pleb.
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No.
10 chars
you’re checking boxes for that guy right now
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Yeah he didn’t even interacted with Thalyssra during the time he was in Suramar (Balance of Power questline), he seems more interested with those Moon Guards (and me, mostly me).