Blizzard's stories are getting more nuanced, to their total detriment

I always interpreted the Horde’s honor more along the lines of other warrior cultures where it’s all about dying a glorious death with as many bodies of your enemy piled around you as possible.

I miss the old Horde and how they weren’t treated as misunderstood villains. Just savages from another world that was totally metal.

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Yeah but there is a difference between not getting a say and not even getting to participate.

I agree that the issue is that Blizzard is trying so hard to present the ‘other’ faction in a bad light to the PC faction in order to play on Faction Pride with the story. It just makes everything come across as very disjointed when you take the story of the faction as a whole.

Yes, exactly, but people who are like that aren’t good people nor are they honest when they call themselves “honorable.”