Guess I’m going to ruffle some feathers here but hear me out.
We know better than blizzard what is and isn’t good for classic. Why? Because we are the ones who will ultimately make it succeed or fail.
There is this age old logic of “The customer doesn’t know what they do/don’t really want.”. It’s the same logic that JAB used when striking down the idea of legacy realms originally. There is some truth to that logic but where it falls flat and why JAB was wrong in his use of it is when your talking about things the consumer has experienced.
When your talking about something that there is a large split on like grfx then it could go either way. However it seems by and large people are not buying the new idea of layering anymore than they did the sharding one. We do know what we want here because we have experienced week one lag, crashes, huge queues, etc and we have experienced your sharded modern week one where we can play from the onset but sacrifice community. We are telling you the price of losing some upfront play time and a few people who wouldn’t be recurring subs anyway is the price we would rather pay than what damage sharding/layering will do to the community and the precedent it will set.
Well, if you think that, Blizzard is always hiring. The hubris is stifling. BTW I can speak for myself, don’t need a nobody to make judgments for me.
So this is another thread about layering/sharding?
Initially yes. However you can apply the logic to any given topic.
I agree I rather go through all that than to have sharding or layering.
You sure do use “WE” alot, is this the “Royal WE” are are you presuming to speak for the COMMUNITY? So many of YOU are so obnoxious and presumptuous. YOU think you understand how WE all got here, that YOU know where and how the game got broken, you don’t.
5 bucks you maybe notice the effects of layering like… 2 times before you never see it again. but sure… scream like the universe is about to implode
ive noticed it already on the streams. so when there are more players at launch it will probably be more noticeable.
repeat after me… B… E…T…A…
this is a BETA… a BETA that is not even 1 week old that still has old shard technology implemented in it…
soooo again… im ignoring your fear mongering
I doubt he knows what hubris is.
how is this fear mongering?
Some do, some don’t. Sometimes I read feasible stuff here and other times I wouldn’t want those people influencing the game too much. Overall the suggestions average players make are very shortsighted and professional game devs can find flaws in those ideas when they really start thinking about the problem or suggestion.
because you are shouting murder without even researching what you are seeing…
Please explain this “damage” you’re afraid of? Especially since the layering goes away after a few weeks.
Here’s the problem… In BFA Beta the community was all up and down about how the systems sucked, and classes felt horrible. And blizz did what? Absolutely nothing.
So voicing concerns like this may be a moot point as blizz has history of not listening. On the flip side, the CLASSIC devs HAVE been listening it seems, so feedback like this is great to hear.
Not fear mongering. It’s called learning from past experience.
Is that title supposed to be satire?
all i did was agree with a post. and said i would rather wait in a Q then have to deal layering. that’s screaming murder? that’s fear mongering? im done talking to you. have a good one
I speak for those who share my opinion. The use of the word we in a traditional forum (not internet) usually comes with that understanding and if you don’t agree your supposed to speak up so the overall support or rejection of an idea can be gauged.
For me it’s more about the precedent it sets. Once you use something it makes it’s use more acceptable… The damage is that you artificially inflate the server population and mega-servers are bad for community. The idea blizz is running under is that after phase one the populations will be low enough that it will only be a few thousand at any given time. If that doesn’t happen and you still have say 3 layers left on several servers then what? Do you leave the layering on despite your word? if so how do we trust you in the future? If you suddenly pull it out what’s your plan to deal with all the people now incapable of playing? Do you just dump them into a mega-server? That would be my worst case scenario outcome.
You don’t know better than Blizzard. At all. Crying like this is ridiculous. Play or don’t. No one cares. I’ll bet you’re in the crowd that says long queues and crashing is ok, or 50% + dead servers is ok. No, those things are not acceptable.
If you think you know better than Blizzard see if you can get a job there. Because clearly if you know best, a job there should be easy to get for you no?
It might go away. We don’t know for sure yet.
let them speak for themselves, no one “elected” you.