Blizzard wants to get rid of bots

And this is why in game GM’s should be brought back to the game.

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Maybe you should actually read what SE is posting and not just read the headline. It might help you understand what SE is reporting

Real money trading (RMT) and other illicit activities upset the balance of the game and, as such, are prohibited under the Terms of Service.

We have confirmed that a number of players are engaging in these illicit activities and have therefore taken the actions listed below.

Time Period: Dec. 10, 2020 to Dec. 16, 2020

・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
・Accounts terminated: 3,512

・RMT advertising
・Accounts terminated: 687

Cmon my little neutron star. Blizzard does the same thing. Literally the exact same thing… and people respond in literally the exact same way. Literally.

Not dense enough to know the last time blizzard reported there ban wave on people they did not later need to roll back was June. SE does that every month. So literally not the same thing otherwise we would see that post ever month from blizzard.

Cute stellar reference though.

SE bans 4000 people a month. Blizzard ANNOUNCES ban waves of 70-100k people a couple times a year (and that’s not including all the smaller bans in between.) Surely you can math that out.

Get outta here with your logic. This is raw feelings and rabble rousing only sir.

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Even on the aggregate that banning more people less often is near the same relative numbers as banning less people monthly. The idea that botters get to sit around for months (at this point over 6 since the last announced ban wave that did not catch people like the one in Nov) has FAR worse implications to the game than banning them monthly.

Did you just miss his post or what? I dont really see how… Its all blue, gold, shiny and everything

Ignoring the condescending attitude of your post. I have read that and if you want to get into the touchy feely side of how people perceive things thats far easier to look at.

People do not FEEL that blizzard is doing enough they can say they ban X number of people a day and we never know, and i bet its true that they do ban lots of people and we never see it. What would be better is for blizzard to TELL people they did that. Are you going to get the posts that point out that grpemkb is still in strath? Yes. However, people will see blizzard is being more proactive which, when it comes to this whole perception issue of rampant bots would probably be more helpful than a blue post saying they ban people.

Thats not even a hard thing to have the tech team automate a report and have it sent to a CM or even send it to the news feed for the month. Blizzard is losing a PR battle over something they could put a better spin on by being more transparent.

Yes, this I agree with. Blizzard has always failed at communicating and I’m not entirely sure why. It could be that they just don’t see a reason to, because people will believe whatever they want, regardless of how transparent Blizzard is.

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Yea I mean… I dont trade in feelings. I guaran-darn-tee you million dollar companies dont.

I’ll give you that. And just in general I think they’re dropping the ball on communication with Classic… Even if its just things like hyping the content releases which should be a no-brainer. But also… would it really make a difference? That post from SE was full of people complaining anyway… No one really seemed that placated by a monthly announcement vs a quarterly one. People want want they want and they want it now, regardless of feasibility,

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You will for sure always have people that are going to complain that -Insert Company- is not doing enough against botters/RMT. I would like to see blizzard doing more. That being said they are by far better than some other MMOs that i have come across in dealing with hackers and bots.

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But it’s the consumer that has created the problem though. Mostly…

In reality, I’ve just opted out of the Herb farming market on my toon since Black Lotus is scarce to the point of un-farmable. I can’t compete with the Hunter who sits in Silithus for 24 hours spamming Eagle Eye. I can’t compete with the person who owns five accounts, has five mages, and repeatedly farms Dire Maul and Stratholme.

I’ve since joined a guild that doesn’t really care too much about consumables or world buffs and have continued playing from there. It’s tough at times, but doable.

Ultimately, I don’t see botting as being Blizzard at fault here. Players are to blame and because of that, I refuse to play or even interact with folks who built their entire egos on GDKP and Boosting.

This is exactly right. Blizzard isn’t responsible for players engaged in RMT. If players really wanted bots gone, then players would opt out of the gold-buying market. The presence of bots doesn’t show me Blizzard isn’t doing their job so much as it shows me there’s still a lot of players who want to pay to win the game (even if it hurts the community in the long run).

There’s no profit for the people making bots if the gold they collect isn’t being bought.

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Unfortunately, fighting bots requires manpower. This is something Blizzard had made quite clear they are unwilling to invest in, even if Classic is generating millions of dollars of revenue per month.

To me, the clear giveaway that they really don’t care is that aren’t even letting the community self-moderate.

RuneScape has been wildly successful with Player Moderators, who are trusted members of the community with access to some GM tools. They can ban bots and reset stuck NPCs, things like that. There is no reason why this isn’t implemented in Classic WoW.

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You’re suggesting game developers aren’t responsible for preventing cheating in their games, which is absurd. Imagine if every shooter had rampant aimbotting with nothing being done about it. Only Blizzard gets a pass from its drone fanbase.

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I’ll play into your fantasy. Say Blizzard is this big and giant greedy company that wants our money. Why in the hell would they want the Bot Companies to have money, too? Wouldn’t Blizz not want money to be given to other companies but them? Wouldn’t an evil and greedy corporation want all the money to go to them and no other company? Why would any evil and greedy corporation work with any other company and split their cost? That doesn’t make any sense :thinking:

Well said.