Yes, yes, yes. It is well-documented that WoW was “casual” compared to EQ. Some of us were there and will also humble-brag about being there to gain prestige in conversations. ![:face_with_monocle:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/face_with_monocle.png?v=6" ":face_with_monocle:")
I doubt it will take anyone that ACTUALLY plays classic over retail (thus not playing both) over a month to hit cap. There are so many resources available now that you can VERY easily find a route for leveling at your fingertips. Most people aren’t going to be going in dry. They’ve done this song and dance before. No one is going to be missing buttons on their bars or picking super suboptimal talents or anything like they would have 15 years ago or whatever.
Yeah, that was my point.
Classic is not going to be “just like Vanilla,” nor will it really recapture the feeling for anybody, though it might be fun/nostalgic in its own way.
People will level quicker, gear quicker, etc. We’ll have sims running. Better addons. Etc.
Depends on how blizzard wants to handle addons imho. If I were making the decision I would outright break all quest helper addons and such. The bubbles on the map and such for quests weren’t added until Wrath(?).
It IS time-gating. It’s taking content that already exists (or wouldn’t take much extra time to create) and intentionally staggering its release.
The issue is that this forum has been trained to see the word “timegating” as the vilest insult possible when it is not inherently bad.
The phases NEEDED to be spread out, and having 6 is much better, Dire Maul and Zul Garub were essentially catch up mechanics and would have made other dungeons and raids like MC irrelevant (aside from bindings for class weapons and a few other things).
Indeed. Guilds are going to have Ony/MC on 1 night farm well before Phase 2 is in sight. Still gonna be plenty of fun, though.
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I can’t wait, no more chinese gold spam in my mailbox.
It is time gating. It is de facto time gating. And, at the moment, it’s simply delaying the inevitable.
All of the folks that crow for this don’t want to play “Classic”, they want to play the first 18 months of Classic. They will not want to play the “post Naxx” Classic. Post Naxx, they’ll start crying about new content, and server resets, etc. etc.
They have no regard for players coming late to the game, whether it’s 1 month, 6 months, or 2 years. It’s going to be the Grizzled Vanilla “you shoulda seen” has beens and the new folks trying to make sense of the new world. Or, rather, a dead world, since the Dark Portal is always dark.
The folks that decry the idea of someone rushing in to Naxx to farm BoEs and how that will “ruin” early raiding will be rushing as fast as they can to hit the mileposts between expansions so they can be on the cusp of the next release and gogogo more. None of that “savor the journey” BS, it’s a race to the finish. It was ALWAYS going to be a race to the finish. Now it’s a time gated race to the finish. Unlike before, everyone knows what’s in the next patch.
You can shovel all of this in to the “played metric” theme if you like, getting 2 years of play out of 3 months of content. Vs simply embracing it for what it is, a snapshot sand box world, with all of the gates and doors open, the raids open, letting the world settle in 3-6 months instead of rehashing it every “patch”.
Because, in the end, that’s what you get – a sandbox world with everything wide open. Raiders camping newbs in STV. That One Guy with all of the enchants, wild swings on the AH, established guilds, etc.
Nobody wants to play that game, they want to play the early game. The race. The race to see who gets to be first in line at the forever closed Dark Portal.
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You know, I’m fine with the release schedule, but I think you’re hitting an excellent point here, and basically speaking to the reality that yeah, Classic is not Vanilla, won’t re-create that feeling at all, and won’t re-create that community or revitalize it. Classic is nostalgia-flavored WoW, nothing more and nothing less. Lives have moved on since then and if you’re still exactly the same, with the same friends and same life, as you were in Classic…well. I hope you’re happy, because otherwise I have some concerns.