With talks that mobs are changed to behave differently and Teremus is going to be bannable if kited in SoM, these changes are being added to Classic Era.
Please do not add these to Classic Era. We don’t need training wheels or “safe spaces”, HC SoI isn’t added to Classic so these changes aren’t necessary. There was also posts made that BRD pickpocket nerf was in Classic Era.
Keep all this stuff in SoM. You stated yourself that’s where changes were going to be tried out.
I doubt this affects you at all and you just have your jimmies rustled so you made this dumb post because you can’t grief anymore.
I don’t know about this specific change but the post is about SoM changes in general. SoM changes leaked into CE have absolutely affected CE players. For example the anti-pickpocket change messed up the way some people gold farm in CE.
Found the griefer.
Youre upset that theyre adding an anti-bot measure to the game overall???
(BRD Rogue pick pocket)
Not necessarily that. I also think the mage anti-boosting nerf is helpful. But with these forums, you apparently can’t pick and choose if you are for some changes and not others.
Gotta blanket it
worry about your Jimmy, not his.
Yeah its like Blizz cant help but dunk on Era players over and over.
For me, the most frustrating part is how Blizzard is not announcing any changes to Era. It’s the players who have their game changed around them without any notice.
It sounds silly, but the most annoying change for me is that they removed the UBRS fire resistance buff from being able to be taken out of the instance for MC/BWL runs. We like to use every possible buff we can and had an entire raid ready to use it, only to find out that it was removed from Era without any notice from Blizzard.
Rennataki was bugged for 2 weeks, and it took 6 more weeks for that ZG boss to come back into rotation. No word about the bug, no word about it being silently fixed. The lack of communication on anything related to Era content makes people feel invisible. It reinforces this belief that Era is dead, when in reality, there are some really cool Era communities still flourishing amongst the ashes of the Vanilla corpse that Blizzard is trying to burn down.
This is exactly what I was worried about where SoM changes affect CE. CE players should post here to say they don’t want SoM to affect CE. It will only escalate from here. First it’s the shared bugs, then fruit bowls, then the auto dismount, then the pickpocketing changes, then the quest reward retrieval, then the mob pathing. Later it will be itemization changes, then “QoL” changes, then store stuff, and within 3 - 5 years we will be right back to Modern WoW. It’s already happend with Modern starting back in WotLK and it’s happened again with TBCC. CE should be the one game mode without any changes. But no. Of course those are not the only examples. “Updates” to WC3 with reforged broke the game. The recent “update” to SC2 broke the game. This isn’t fearmongering or madness, but referencing history and seeing CE is going that same path again. Seasonal changes must not affect CE. We will already have to deal with the influx of players & materials as is at the end of each season. Unlike all the other versions of WoW, CE does not have the problems other verions have. There is a small, tight-knit community of players who love the game to death, but only in it’s most un-molested form. Thow those changes into Modern if it really helps botting, griefing, and selling runs. That’s not and never will be an issue for CE.
And yeah, patch notes would be great. Even a full & proper SoM patch note post would allow CE players to keep an eye out and report any changes as a bug. It doesn’t have to be this way 
And… He loses the moral high ground.
No matter what the changes, whether you like them or dislike them, one thing is certain.
The farther they drift from the original formula the harder it will be to counter the abandonware issue.
Era should resemble Vanilla as closely as possible, “warts and all”.
Private servers will rofl at future attempts to cease and desist, and this company will deserve it all.
In the prudish American sense, yes I did. WoW classic is also infamous for bikini plate + revealing cloth for women and He-Man leather straps + loincloths for men. However the point was to leave the game unchanged and fruit bowls was an example obvious enough for even WoWhead to post about it. I would have preferred a disclaimer akin to what TCM does for their movies and put some “warning” when launching Era rather than do revisionism. But because it’s a internet connected game owned by a company, “changes” have become the norm. It is easier to patch a game than a book, film, song, or other media that people around the world chose to enjoy in it’s original form.
The truth of the matter is Blizzard needs to keep CE as a successful museum piece. There is and always be a community, whether big or small that wants Vanilla WoW or a close enough iteration.
They have that in CE and can continue to be profitable while using minimal resources. The code is already written, the game is somewhat polished (minus the few bugs that need to be fixed) and you have a happy playerbase that doesn’t require change or updates.
Merge all CE current servers to 1 PvE and 1 PvP. Create a new server for CE that is designated as the “fresh” that resets 6 months after Naxx release where you can then transfer off to an existing CE server, similar to SoM. Do this every 18-24 months, minimal effort and easy profit.
I just think mentioning that particular change takes away from your, generally good, point. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with making changes to make the game more inclusive, even if some of their attempts to do so are cynical AND stupid.
Posting to support that Classic Era servers should not be subject to changes made to SoM realms.
Keep Era as close to the original game as possible.
Changes for seasonal servers should not affect us.
Any that have already been put in because of seasonal servers should be removed for Classic Era.
I support this 100%. It’s infuriating that all these SoM changes and being bled into Classic Era, worse even without any notice whatsoever.
no they can all the som changes they want, som is built around changes, your welcome to go play 1.13 with no changes
I think you may be confused. This thread’s topic is about SOM’s changes being implented in Classic Era
dude is asking for SoM changes to not change the classic era servers. You need to learn to read bro