Blizzard, "rare" items simply aren't fun

[Onivoker-zuljin]

Dinars should have been a permanent addition honestly.

Maybe increase boss kills for each one, but something like that would REALLY help raiding and getting those items you need

[Anxxy-sargeras]

I liked it because I dislike raiding personally and just wanted to snag the BiS items, at least in this scenario I would have a heroic eranog ring at least.

The fact that you can’t snipe this loot really feels bad. We haven’t seen a mythic eranog ring yet. Or an icon drop off the boss.

I will say though - besides the obvious problem of “the next 3 bosses are worthless you should just kill the first 2” it does keep everyone excited to loot primal council / eranog

[Lunkel-garona (Lunkel)]

@Reshyk-cenarion-circle

Where I’m coming from is that scale matters. A lot. And you’re consistently ignoring the scale by saying it’s just like every other item with a random drop chance. It is not due to the scaling of both the power and the rarity

The power is being toned down and do we even have accurate numbers in terms of how much more rare it is over regular loot drops?

Having said that, I’m not against other ways of getting loot, quite the opposite in fact. A couple of you seem to be overlooking that I mentioned that I got my bow from a time walking weekly chest, so there already is more than one way to get it, albeit still dependent on rng.

[Jakesulli-bronzebeard]

@Laurenorder-eonar

Blizzard, “rare” items simply aren’t fun

You thought you could have everything in the game. That’s your mistake. Stop dreaming. WoW didnt promise that you would get everything on this game.

If there are 10 BiS Rare items out there, just be thankful if you get 3. But no matter what, you would be able to beat your personal goal of KSM or AoTC or KSH. You dont need all of the rare BiS items. If you didnt get the Top 1 and Top 2 trinket, you might have the top 4 and top 6 enough to still beat AoTC.

RNG is RNG.

[Spriek-wyrmrest-accord]

extremely unfair. wow is, by far, the only of the 3-4 big mmos that have needlessly rare equipment. in ff14, you can buy anything with either tomestones or manifestos/whatever the reskin books are now. in eso, there really isn’t anything particularly rare and you can change the gear into what you want, provided its the armour type you want. in gw2, uh…well, i dunno.

wow’s got no currency for raid/mythic+ drops. so, your only solution is to burn out quick and farm the same instance 20 times or hope for something in your vault…3-4 times per sub period. that seem like an mmo problem? or a wow problem?

[Dáddý-area-52]

You are making a huge assumption Blizzard is ever going to learn their lesson here and that the 2H Agi Weapon isn’t going to completely warp balance around it like the Hunter weapon did (daily reminder LFR Raz weapon better than 418 crafted).

Also, unless the Vault rings get nerfed dps are going to use the Eranog ring for the entirety of next tier and probably the next since the increase in secondaries (rings don’t scale well with IL because no main stat) is not going to offset the proc.

[Orctang-area-52 (Orctang)]

@Vapyr-moon-guard

MMORPGs really aren’t the genre for the vast majority of people.

Fixed it for you!

[Kiper-sentinels]

@Argorwal-ysera

Anyway, I think many players obsess over “BiS” too much, as if in there mind only a handful of items even exist.

Most players don’t do content that they think they need bis for anyway. You don’t need BiS to run normal or heroic raids, you surely don’t need it for LFR. You don’t need bis for a +10 key, you surely don’t need it for world quests. So many players think they “need” something when they do nothing more than trivial content.

[Onivoker-zuljin]

@Spriek-wyrmrest-accord

in ff14, you can buy anything with either tomestones or manifestos/whatever the reskin books are now.

They trade rng for considerable time investment. Plus, FF gear is boring as hell honestly.

@Spriek-wyrmrest-accord

in gw2, uh…well, i dunno.

GW2 is horizontal, they really don’t deal in gear too much.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Kiper-sentinels

@Argorwal-ysera

Anyway, I think many players obsess over “BiS” too much, as if in there mind only a handful of items even exist.

Most players don’t do content that they think they need bis for anyway. You don’t need BiS to run normal or heroic raids, you surely don’t need it for LFR. You don’t need bis for a +10 key, you surely don’t need it for world quests. So many players think they “need” something when they do nothing more than trivial content.

Absolute BiS is not needed for 20s and mythic raids either.

As demonstrated by how undergeared early teams are when they complete this content.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Spriek-wyrmrest-accord

extremely unfair. wow is, by far, the only of the 3-4 big mmos that have needlessly rare equipment. in ff14, you can buy anything with either tomestones or manifestos/whatever the reskin books are now. in eso, there really isn’t anything particularly rare and you can change the gear into what you want, provided its the armour type you want. in gw2, uh…well, i dunno.

wow’s got no currency for raid/mythic+ drops. so, your only solution is to burn out quick and farm the same instance 20 times or hope for something in your vault…3-4 times per sub period. that seem like an mmo problem? or a wow problem?

FF14 is just a different style that is build on essentially 0 customization and options when it comes to power.

No talents, bland gear, hardest content is gear scaled, etc.

It’s a good game, but it’s a different game (and that is fine).

[Onivoker-zuljin]

@Argorwal-ysera

hardest content is gear scaled

and rewards nothing of real value

[Orctang-area-52 (Orctang)]

@Argorwal-ysera

Absolute BiS is not needed for 20s and mythic raids either.

This is true since I don’t have it myself and can do 20’s. They do need to get rid of the rare gear idea though.

[Onivoker-zuljin]

@Orctang-area-52

They do need to get rid of the rare gear idea though.

It’s always been a thing though, only difference is they’re listing it separately.

It’s not even THAT much more rare. We’ve had so many eranog rings drop… but have seen very few of some of the “normal” items. We’ve had ONE eranog tank trink

[Orctang-area-52 (Orctang)]

@Onivoker-zuljin

It’s not even THAT much more rare. We’ve had so many eranog rings drop… but have seen very few of some of the “normal” items. We’ve had ONE eranog tank trink

Yeah, ok so why haven’t see seen a bow drop yet?

[Onivoker-zuljin]

Because RNG be RNG.

It could be the same drop rate as everything else and you still might not see it.

[Orctang-area-52 (Orctang)]

No, very rare gear is bad.

[Onivoker-zuljin]

No, op gear gear is bad.

If the bow was just a few % ahead of the next option instead of 15% or more it wouldn’t be a big deal. (which is what they’re doing in 10.0.7)

And you still might not see it if it wasn’t “very rare”

[Murdercarpet-zuljin]

I read the title and thought the OP was talking about mounts and pets. Not OP gear.

[Orctang-area-52 (Orctang)]

@Onivoker-zuljin

No, op gear gear is bad.

This is also bad but having very rare gear is also bad. Blizzard can keep bleeding subs though!