With the recent nerfs to some of our defensives as well as nerfs to the Riders tree and buffs to the Reaper Tree.
Blizzard is seemingly pushing us towards the Dracocleave Playstyle and away from more traditional comps.
Hit and run tactics with a HIGHLY tellagraphed 1 min burst that is very susceptible to peel.
Far from what I would consider the “slow moving juggernaut”
Never existed. Not to mention you wouldnt want to play a slow moving juggernaut because you would be useless. Rider is the movement speed hero spec.
When was the last time you played arena?
What comp?
Roughly what rating?
When was the last time you played as a slow moving juggernaut?
More recently than you’ve stepped foot in end game content it would appear.
So that would be never because it has never existed.
Did you just admit you’ve never stepped foot in end game content?
No. No I quite literally didnt.
This our “beloved” Kelliste (in the most sarcastical way possible).
Entitled to have an opinion while having no clue about anything.
Also he rather plays the forums than the actual game.
No one can get on the game right now smart one.
But no, DK’s are not slow moving juggernauts. Never were. In fact all of you would hate it if you were slow moving juggernauts because you would be complaining even more than you are now.
Frost used to be a literal tank spec with 0 mobility moves
Currently a glass cannon with 2 charges DA and wraith walk
We seem to have drifted quite far.
Perhaps somewhere in the middle would be better?
No it wasnt. It being able to tank doesnt mean it was a tank spec. It was a dps spec that could tank. It was an experiment. It was a dps spec that had 15% increased movement speed and was a berserker of the north. Unholy could also tank in Wrath.
So never a juggernaut. It never existed, its just something that gets thrown around on the forums with nothing to back it up and people repeat it and they arent able to back it up.
No it wouldnt. People are already asking for MORE movement speed and rider is coming which is infinitely better than paladin movement.
No one is asking for more MS.
MS is just 1 piece of Mobility
With what Mobility we have + or negative mobility we have is more than enough
Is this what they doubled down on?
If so, frost is dead to me for another expac.
I wonder what blood looks like in PVP with the tank changes…
Yes they are lol. Its everywhere.
You don’t PvP and I can’t believe that you have been finding every single mention of frost juggernaut to deny it for a decade.
It’s like your full time job.
Hardly anyone pvp’s. But I dont like people lying about what the spec was / is. The class isnt and never was a juggernaut. Not to mention that there was just a thread saying “we move too slowly we need more movement bring back unholy presence” and then here are people saying “no ones asking for more movement speed”. You guys cant even pay attention to what is going on now with the class you guys claim to love. Its just “me me me, I want I want I want”.
So kindly, would you just shut it with your annoying little jabs that are just flaccid insults with no weight?
I’d like to see a poll.
With tank and glass cannon being on opposite ends of the spectrum. In order to evolve from one to the other we crossed juggernaut at some point.
Somewhere with a little less Mobility and CC and a little better damage and survivability
I NEVER respond to you. But this is the worst take from you I have seen in ages. And that is saying a lot.
I have screenshots / videos from wrath of my DK soloing 2s arenas, just walking around, rotting people and never dying while playing tank specced frost. Yes it could DPS, but any self respecting player that wanted to tank properly ran frost, it was the de-facto best option outside of a few magic heavy encounters.
So yes, class WAS a slow juggernaut. It played well like that. The reason people have to ask for movement is because being just a slow juggernaut doesn’t work in the modern PvPscape, with the amount of powercreep movement itself has had over the years.
You are getting a little off topic here we are specifically talking PvP in this thread, but while we are on it.
How did we NOT get presences back in the unpruning ? I’ll trade for DnD any day.
Deaths advance could be easily reworked into Unholy Presence if they were brought back.
The change would slightly reduce our mobility while increasing MS.
Overall a slight nerf but would help us adjust some power out of mobility to be reused elsewhere.
UH Pres would read something like “Increases Movement speed by X% and Reduces the Effectiveness of slowing effects by Y%”.
Tunned Accordingly.