Dude you can pug up to +10 maybe even +15 depending on how geared you are while half asleep. If you’re just a casual player who doesn’t invest the time into learning and improving beyond a certain point, and you don’t pursue stuff like Heroic-Mythic raiding you don’t NEED to be doing anything higher than that and don’t need to worry about it
How many classes in WoW can do that?
I personally am jealous that you and others can do it, but that’s bad class balance by Blizzard.
I think every class can prob do this at end game, its just time consuming.
It’s really not so much class balance as it is just the difference between Normal Dungeon Gear and Heroic-Mythic or Higher M+ gear
I can’t say I agree there.
Since casters can still pull 90k+ overall while doing this.
Firmly sounds more like you’re having issues multi-tasking.
Never played Lost Ark have you.
MMO doesn’t mean turn based damage/healing only.
I’m not a new age player at all.
Probably all 13 ?
Not a big stretch to be soloing content tuned for toons with ilvl 320 gear when you’re in ilvl 415 gear.
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Give us at least one gear check dungeon, where the mobs put out decent damage and mana becomes an issue if the DPS cannot kill them fast enough. Enough of these “mechanics” which are actually just positional busy work.
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Every M+ is this.
So any M+.
Positional busy work has been in the game since 2004.
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but at lower ilvl it takes effort on some specs and that’s basically a form of cheating. it’s also bad game design. good game design is when i get the rewards i want without having to try at all
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they’ve done fights like that. people here complain about those too. “wahh it’s not fair this is just a gear check” in gear much better than what the top players killed it with.
I agree and combining it with affixes is cancer.
So we have rotation, dungeon mechanics, affixes, and timers.
Yo dawg we heard you like multitasking, so we gave you tasks to multitask while you’re multitasking.
If I wanted this many tasks to multitask, I’d play a mobile cooking game.
How do you make a gear check work in a dungeon ?
It goes from Normal all the way to +20.
How can something be a gear check in normal ? What gear are you checking for ?
“Oh crap dudes, guys who queued into this Heroic don’t have enough gear for the gear check, guess we gotta jet now”.
How would this even work ?
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Tazavesh is the best dungeon ever made. M+ in shadowlands (especially season 3) was really good.
Nah. His point is that if you know quaking is about to come, you just use an instant during that GCD instead of literally nothing. ABC - always be casting. It’s a misplay to try to cast and cancel compared to using an instant cast.
Nope. They think you should rise up and meet the challenge. Make friends. Learn new skills or master new tools.
That’s what games are in the first place - they are a way we can create challenges without actually putting yourselves in real mortal danger. You can do something exhilarating without falling off a mountain side or drowning in an underwater cave.
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I meant more in mindset not experience. Many of us older wow players came from Everquest and do not enjoy the increasingly arcade style dungeon design and would like more of a balance. There are ways to increase the challenge that dont involve positional avoidance, its turned into a dancing game.
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Dude, I replayed the AD&D Gold Box games recently because they’re some of my favorite RPGs.
You’re barking up the wrong tree with your assumptions.
M+ already does this : it increases mobs damage done and their health pools. More challenging because it requires more numbers.
That’s what Everquest did.
This is a weird way to spell Halls of Valor :^)
I think people are confusing challenging with annoying. Nobody is saying make the dungeons easier,we are saying make them less annoying with lazy game design.
They didnt design them for the casual gamer they made them for esports which has been their plan since like mop.
Wow by its very nature is an easy game, nothing in WOW is going to be too challenging for anyone who has enough time on their hands. Lets make it a more enjoyable exp though with a bit more variance in mechanics and playstyle.
And you’re confusing annoying with fun.
Sitting very still doing max dps rotation isn’t fun. I can do that on a target dummy, I’d expect a dungeon boss to put up more of a fight that a wooden stake planted in the ground in Stormwind.