Its a silly conflict of interests but people are taking it as a battle for supremacy. Im objecting to the argument that says RDF should be in the game because there is no real argument to be made there if you want to be real about it. Players dont have a leg to stand on where game changes are concerned and Im simply pointing that out.
You could argue authenticity, like Im inclined to do but that went out the window so long ago its no longer viable. Somechanges has been a thing. Too little too late to cry about it now.
So I point out the futility in crying about it and hating on folk who like it or otherwise could care less.
or itâs a request to play wrath as it was the first time and and you just donât like it (contrary to what you say), itâs their time and they can post about it all they want, who are you to tell anyone what they can do with their time.
youâve already proven you think the Devâs are all making the right choices so you just here rubbing it in or worried they might be listening (granted no one believe that last part anymore).
If thats how you want to see it then I cant stop you. I can just tell you youre wrong but being wrong isnt much of an obstacle for you.
The broader view says our interaction of the game is different than we think it is. We pay admission to the theme park, we dont design or maintain the theme park. If the theme park removes one of my favorite attractions my only recourse is to deal with it with the appropriate amount of resolve or exit the themepark.
Thats a more proactive approach then having a delusional sense of entitlement on a public forum.
Soo the forums are just a waste of network space and should just be closed out huhâŚ
No you canât but you seem to still as Iâve said pop up in every thread that RDF pops up in (kinda funny huh)⌠not that you care or anything and try and tell everyone their wrong and blizzards rightâŚ
**ok thinking about it the Forums are probably a waste of space have been for a while, but still a public forum and if people have a sub and are allow to post they should be able to without having to only post Corpseknife approved topicsâŚ
Did I say that? Can you do something other than strawman? For petes sakeâŚ
Do you see the hypocrisy in demanding your right to your opinion while insinuating I shouldnt post mine?
Do you understand thatâs been a large part of my complaint in opposition to you? Other than the fact that youre not correct about anything youâve typed?
The first thing you need to understand when you navigate these waters is you are not entitled to any changes or non changes. You vote with your wallet, thats it. You can use your voice but tell me how effective that is if you were against boosts or HvH BGs?
If youâre commentary or feedback isnt aware of this very real fact and comes from a place of entitlement which you have zero right too then you lost the debate - youre not even having one. Youre just complaining because you can and no one is going to be spared in the process.
Wow, never seen that before.
The only thing âPro RDFâ advocates got going for them is their strength in numbers advantage on the forums. Other than the ability to go all inquistor on non believers butts forumwise you got nothing. And it shows.
so your âopinionâ has been to telling everyone to basically shut up if we have a opposing position and weâre wrong⌠and blizzards rightâŚ
My âhypocrisyâ is pointing that outâŚ
IâM entitled to give feed back is what Iâm entitled to while I can still post⌠Whether you like it or not (and you seem not to well tough cookiesâŚ)
HMM
right then translate what youâre saying here if not, to telling people to not complain on the forums and just live with the changeâŚ
Again, youre putting words in my mouth. Im not saying to not post your opinion. Im just reminding you your opinion sucks and how to correct it.
Its Blizzards game and they can do what they want and not everyone has to like it. Thats just basic facts. I post the facts and then you argue with me instead. Or try to anyway. Really been arguing with yourself this whole time.
Right and wrong dont enter into it. This is about who has control over what and unfortunately the players strength in that arena does not come from forum ranting wherein you openly insult the developer. Not every player is going to be pleased with every change. Someone has to not get their way. Thats just life.
But because its your turn to get burned now its not okay. Good luck with that.
well the convo stated with you saying you didnât care either way and yet also came out saying you think they are right - hmm no conflict thereâŚ
ya still waiting on the response of you accusing me straw-maning on the amusement park thing vs giving feedback on the forums thing⌠tap tap tapâŚ.
sooo again saying the forums are useless or going back to saying Iâm straw-manning?
*as far as the devâs my lack of respect was gone long before Classic stuff came out, it started with them deleting my Main spec of over 10 years, they are so bad at their jobs they canât see how people in a RPG would get attached to a toon and just wipe it out on a whim to make it play entirely different (for something that would be way more unpopular than the version I liked to play) *(the RSV to MSV change).
Classic was so successful because it changed almost nothing. The more they change, the more people they alienate from the most popular expansion in the gameâs history.
I agree that Wrath isnât Vanilla. But theyâre all Classic. However, if people want Vanilla with Northrend, thatâs a violation of the Classic experiment.
If you want hard levelling and unbalancecd classes ⌠âGo back to Era serversâ.
Wrath changed the game to strum to the beat of a different tune, in terms of how inviting it was meant to be for new players and itâs accessibility.
They know that by reverting and tweaking WOTLK to be âmore like Vanillaâ they are gonna lose that influx of âcasual-ishâ players that WOTLK was so attractive to for how it was designed after ICC and on, but they are OK with it because they probably realize that itâs a reasonable sacrifice to make to maintain what the game had before they made those changes, for the sake of a better experience this time around.
The Vanilla lovers and the Wrath lovers are different groups, even on Private Servers. And after Vanilla, Wrath is the most popular iteration even with RDF etc. If theyâre trying to treat them all as the same theyâre going to lose half the people whoâve stuck with Classic âuntil Wrathâ, because this ainât your Grandfatherâs Wrath. And thatâs what we wanted.
Yes, which is why I said that theyâre indifferent to the alienation that they are probably aware of.
They seem to be tweaking Wrath Classic for fans of âold WoWâ more than they are making it for âfans of WOTLKâ, essentially.
Is this a good choice? IDK time will tell, but is it one Iâm sure down to experiment with? Hell yeah.
Those that are curious about what Blizzard may do next, feel free to inquire with players like me what they may do next, weâre a bit on the same frequency as what Blizzard is doing. No point in continuing to expect them to just not change anything. They will change it, and it will be for the benefit of players like me, not you (probably).
