Blizz if you're going to ripoff ideas from FFXIV at least let us level in Torghast

[Därkprayers-proudmoore (Därkprayers)]

@Vever-frostwolf

no, it’s basically the new WoW of MMO’s. We’re the new runescape

Lol, what?

[Minaverus-aggramar]

There’s actually a lot more that WoW has borrowed from FFXIV. Playing through Tirna Scithe dungeon made me realize that Ardenweald is just Il Mheg and Mistcaller is just Titania. I actually threw up a little bit when I realized. Then I started to notice other similarities like Revendreth being Ahm Ahrang and the light corrupted venthyr becoming sin eaters from being in the light for too long. It made me realize they must have just been on autopilot when conceptualizing the story. Shadowbringers/Shadowlands, not exactly subtle. I suppose the creative team behind FFXIV must be flattered. The story in FFXIV is pretty damn good, something WoW really needs to work on.

[Zootzoot-kaelthas (Zootzoot)]

LOL how did this thread get so derailed by people triggered by the OP using the word ripoff in the title? Torghast was obviously inspired by PotD in FF XIV and I agree that we should be able to level there via Threads of Fate.

[Bonkleberry-icecrown]

Torghast is nothing like Palace of the Dead and Roguelike game genres were not invented by FFXIV.

[Nillah-ravencrest]

@Padgarre-lightbringer

I wouldn’t be suprised in the slightest if some Blizzard employees behind the idea are actual FFXIV players.

Many of the devs do play it. I had heard from a former CM that they have their own raiding guild, even.

@Zootzoot-kaelthas

LOL how did this thread get so derailed by people triggered by the OP using the word ripoff in the title?

Oh it’s not that word. It’s “FFXIV” that sets people off around here. Really amazing to watch it happen. It’s very similar to running into a conservative or democrat forum and screaming anything positive about the opposite party.

[Sabali-emerald-dream]

Rip off is probably not the right term.

Let’s just say: “Heavily, heavily inspired.”

Torghast is definitely a better version of FFXIV’s Palace of the Dead, but it’s basically the same thing.

[Pellíx-wyrmrest-accord]

While FFXIV didnt invent the system I would bet money that Blizz had the idea to add it because of FF’s recent success.

[Alchemical-sisters-of-elune]

I’ll only focus on the leveling in torghast part, which I kind of agree with. BfA let us level up through islands, I think if you want to just do fast queue leveling then figure out where you are at cap you should be allowed to do that.

[Fòxsc-lightnings-blade (Foxsc)]

@Carhagen-moon-guard

It’s based on Rogue-lite mechanics that have existed long before FFXIV was even an idea, so, yeah take that BS out back and bury it where it belongs.

Blizzard has a history of, “borrowing” or," paying homage" to games and taking 80% of said games features. They ripped an entire class from GW 2 and put it in wow.

[Illiaster-moon-guard (Illiaster)]

@Seraphindra-blackrock

if you actually played FFXIV you’d realize how much better their PvE content is.

Thats a joke and a half.

[Illiaster-moon-guard (Illiaster)]

@Minaverus-aggramar

Playing through Tirna Scithe dungeon made me realize that Ardenweald is just Il Mheg and Mistcaller is just Titania.

Thats a reach and you know it.

@Minaverus-aggramar

Then I started to notice other similarities like Revendreth being Ahm Ahrang and the light corrupted venthyr becoming sin eaters from being in the light for too long

And it only gets to worse reaching.

[Minaverus-aggramar]

Go check out the metacritic for Shadowlands and then go check out the metacritic for Shadowbringers. Prepare to be shocked. You’re in the minority.

[Illiaster-moon-guard (Illiaster)]

Lol metacritic. If your defense is literally “this is what everyone over there is saying…”, then its regurgitated drivel.

If you honestly think Amh Araang and Revendreth are similar, then you need your head checked.

[Minaverus-aggramar]

White knight/death knight goes against the lore.

[Illiaster-moon-guard (Illiaster)]

Gets called out for how dumb a comparison was

“Youre a white knight!”

Lmao. You cant even defend your own point.

[Minaverus-aggramar]

The zones aesthetically are not similar, which is why I compared the story.

[Amarlly-azuremyst (Amarlly)]

@Padgarre-lightbringer

There are endless dungeons in FFXIV

And my understanding is that FF14 ripped that off from other games, so saying Blizz ripped off FF14 for Torghast is simply incorrect.

[Illiaster-moon-guard (Illiaster)]

@Minaverus-aggramar

which is why I compared the story.

Again, if you think the stories of Revendreth and Amh Araang are similar…I would suggest playing both over again.

[Illiaster-moon-guard (Illiaster)]

@Amarlly-azuremyst

And my understanding is that FF14 ripped that off from other games, so saying Blizz ripped off FF14 for Torghast is simply incorrect.

Also unlike Palace of the Damned/Heaven-On-High, they dont suck. The challenge of PotD and HoH is how long until you get bored.

[Padgarre-lightbringer (Padgarre)]

what? If it’s ripped off it’s ripped off.