the rule they all violated are you still on the blizzard fake gamer outrage bandwagon?
6.3 Illegal and Unethical Conduct. (b) A player may not, during any Tournament, commit any act or become involved in any situation or occurrence which brings him or her into public disrepute, scandal or ridicule, or shocks or offends the community, or derogates from his or her public image or reflects unfavorably upon Blizzard, the player community, Hearthstone, or any other products, services, or sponsors of Blizzard.
You claimed they tossed China away. They haven’t. Had China expected them to do anything they would be singing a different tune.
Answer my question. That does not answer it. Allowing one political stance but not the other is double standards. They enforced the rule here cus it has a monetary effect on them.,
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no i just dont have any fake gamer outrage toward blizzard they did what any boss would do.
and im trying to show that to people.
Epic Games is over 40% owned by China.
They are also not a public company.
Going against China would not actually hurt their bottom line at all because there are no shareholders to please.
Also, that PR, a lot more valuable than you think.
Remember, this is EPIC we are talking about here, the little upstart company the gaming community treats like their own version of Hitler or Mao for their exclusivity deals and horrible store. Getting on board with the crowd was the best thing Epic has ever done because literally nobody is talking about all of their dirty and underhanded tricks.
It’s not a values thing at all no matter how much people try to do this.
The entire purpose of a company is to make money. Blizzard has an obligation to bring in more and more money and keep the interests of their shareholders as priority #1. It sucks I know, but until a legal case is made to change this dynamic, this is our reality. Not doing business in China when the Western market is all but dried out causes massive profit loss and a loss of jobs.
Epic is relatively tiny, I mean yeah they have Fortnite, but in comparison to Activision Blizzard or EA, they’re tiny.
For a small company, PR is more important than cash.
They did. That statement the Chinese government wont look favorably on. If you cant sees that then i cant help you.
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Ok, even I am getting sick of “fake gamer outrage”. Can we stop? 
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Blizzard and a lot of other companies and organizations do not consider supporting LGBT rights and representation as political.
I have 2 BAs, Political Science and Law. You know what I learned in Poli Sci 101? That every government has it’s own set of rules and regulation. That corporate entities as well as the general visitor needs to abide by those rules.
Cool, I’m a 38 year old woman who actually travels to all sorts of countries for work. Take my years of experience to heart here. Anytime I leave Canada, I get a brief from our HR department, it explains the different laws and rules for whatever country they send me to. I have had armed escorts in some countries just due to their general political unrest, those mostly occur in South America. The Asiatic countries I have visited, I have never had that issue.
The outrage over censorship is moot. They broke the rules set forth by the tournament, we also have the same rules built right into our ToS. They enforced it, and since it was done on that country’s soil, they are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Epic hasn’t thrown away China. Tencent owns a 40% stake in the company. Blizzard makes Tencent hundreds of millions of dollars. Thanks to Fortnite, Epic makes Tencent billions of dollars.
Exactly. Money is why the punished blitzchung. The shareholders dont give a rats butt what anyone says on stream only if it effects the bottom line. Trading your western values for cash is abominable. If Tencent divested others would happily buy up the rest from them.
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It’s contract law 101, vagueness is almost required.
Not a bad business to be in actually.
Also, if you look at any ToS or Terms & Conditions, you’ll see similar language.
It’s vague intentionally so the individual doesn’t have any legal recourse if the company does something bad.
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for all you know blizzard gave the ok for the gay pride event.the point is the esport players violates the rules.
Tencent has literally no sway here. Dude owns the controlling shares and could easily find buyers. They just re-launched Fortnite into a new map. Its still wildly popular, people make so much money from playing fortnite. Tencent has no say as others would buy it up.
You think China is gonna allow them to operate there with the stance they took?
Listen, I’m glad you built up the courage to come back here, seeing as you embarrassed yourself last time.
But you were wrong then, and you are wrong now.
I’m the one who pointed you to the rule in the first place, days ago.
- I’ve read his statement (have you?). That’s not what he said.
“Earlier this week, I told media that I knew I might have penalty or consequence for my act, because I understand that my act could take the conversation away from the purpose of the event.”
- Knowingly breaking a stupid rule doesn’t make the rule not stupid, or make you wrong for breaking it.
Nope. Quite the opposite.
In order to break a rule, there would have to be a clear way not to break the rule.
As I proved two days ago, there is no way to not break that rule… which means the rule has no meaning other than “Blizzard doesn’t like this”.
Again, that’s not what he said.
Also, the fact that we’re calling him the victim kind of proves my point.
In order for you to be convicted of a crime in a court of law, the prosecution has to demonstrate how you violated the law.
Back when the game was more RPG than theme park, you could do this.
It wasn’t exactly optimal… or even viable… but you could do it
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the rules my dude that those esport players violated.
6.3 Illegal and Unethical Conduct. (b) A player may not, during any Tournament, commit any act or become involved in any situation or occurrence which brings him or her into public disrepute, scandal or ridicule, or shocks or offends the community, or derogates from his or her public image or reflects unfavorably upon Blizzard, the player community, Hearthstone, or any other products, services, or sponsors of Blizzard.
can you read?
It’s still a political stance and if they approved it that just makes them even more corrupt. They pick and choose which Western Values they wanna represent based on the monetary cost. Lose money from being Pro LGBT? Nothing they’d notice. Piss of China? Oh overlord China how can we appease thee?
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If they had any intention of kicking Epic out of the Chinese market, it would have happened last week. They aren’t known for being slow at retaliation.
Tencent is literally the largest gaming entity in the world right now. It dwarfs everyone else. If you think that not having a controlling share of a company means they have no power, you should really learn more about how this all works.
Again, not a political issue. Most tech companies actually consider this not to be a political issue in fact.
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Yeah they also own 5% of Blizzard stock too but the fact is Epic is willing to show more backbone when they actually have more to lose than Blizzard does
Its a sad day when a big corporation like Blizzard lets a foreign country dictate terms on how thier american offices be run
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