Blizz, Hong Kong, Freedom of speech, lets have an Adult discussion

The conversation was never about me, but about the OP and others like them who are boycotting a single company, when multiple companies are guilty of the same thing.

As I pointed out, Apple has done far WORSE than Blizzard, but Blizzard, for some reason, is being made out at the major villain, and other offenders skating by, barely attracting attention.

It’s scapegoating, plain and simple.

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Not really.

Blizzard is being punished for Blizzard’s actions, not for the actions of anyone else.

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OK, wasn’t sure. Someone told me so, but I haven’t played since taking out Scorpio.

OMG Blizzard is evil for punishing someone who broke tournament rules only because that person spoke out about China! Forget Apple actively helping China bring down the protestors, we have to conveniently forget about that while we lambast Blizzard from our new iPhones!

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It could be true, idk, I just popped back in recently to check some things out before/after the new expansion. I don’t really keep up to date on any drama or news so it could very well be true. :slight_smile:

This has been covered as well. I know the mega-thread is long and convoluted, but these questions have been answered.

  1. Blitzchung was over-punished, for violating a “non-rule”. This occurred because Blizzard was kowtowing to Chinese censors.
  2. Just because people are upset about this, does NOT mean those people are NOT upset about Apple. They’re just not talking about it here because these are the Blizzard forums.
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Jesus wept…that’s enough forums for the day.

On this point you need to acknowledge that there is a difference between, “Blizzard,” and the affiliated companies that organize and run such events, especially in other countries. Its like people losing their minds over the recent cancellation of an Overwatch event and saying Blizzard is scared, without realizing that Nintendo were the ones organizing and hosting that event in the first place.

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The ruling came from a Blizzard-contracted company, using the Blizzard name.

They don’t get to wash their hands of the issue.

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And when someone from Blizzard actually weighed in on it, they decided said company went too far and over-ruled it.

People act like J. Allen Brack was sitting in his office, watching the tournament, and called in and decided to ban the player and withhold their winnings and fire the two casters himself.

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Only after considerable social and financial pressure was leveraged against the company.

You can delegate authority, but you can’t delegate responsibility.

You don’t get to tell someone that they can act for you in an area, and then not incur the consequences of their actions in that area. By telling them to act in your stead, you are signing off on their actions.

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only half right. because China isn’t looking for fault in a company to drop them, they are likely looking for an opportunity to take over all of the company due to the fear installed by the local consumers.

“walking on egg shells hoping the (american, etc) consumers don’t find some perceived fault, putting them into a position where they have to be bought out by a China (or other opportunist entity)”

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Ugh, this again…

Don’t ya know, they just did that to save face not because they agreed it was too strict of a punishment.

/s

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Or after an inquiry had been pursued and resolved.

There are procedures to these kinds of things. Investigations, research, looking at other examples of past punishments to see if everything is acceptable, etc… You don’t over-turn a decision at the flip of a coin.

Meanwhile everyone and their mother was flipping out about it, working themselves into a frothing mob.

An inquiry that only took place after pressure was brought against the company.

If no one had said anything, it’s unlikely the Blitzchung would have his money.

It wasn’t a small punishment, and the geopolitical context was important.

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Or, an inquiry which began the moment Blizzard itself was made aware of the situation. They take these kinds of things seriously. Banning players is typically bad for business, after all.

Somehow, I don’t think so. I think the punishments would’ve been reversed to what we’d seen, but we wouldn’t have seen any announcements about it, since they wouldn’t be needed.

Yeah, that company that wasn’t Blizzard certainly over-reacted. Glad Blizzard agreed on that point.

Social, sure. Financial, not at all. The unsubs weren’t even a blip on the radar of ATVI stock. To be honest, a lot of people made a lot of money during all this nonsense.

I think you give Blizzard a terrible amount of credit here.

That company was contracted by Blizzard, to act for Blizzard, and therefor Blizzard is responsible for their actions.

Again, you can delegate authority, but not responsibility.

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Whatever helps keep you angry at Blizzard I suppose.